http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapc...pt=T1&iref=BN1
Thoughts? Reactions?
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapc...pt=T1&iref=BN1
Thoughts? Reactions?
He will stand before God for judgment.
I thought of the people on Flight 93, who took the plane down before it could hit another building, and of the firefighters and police in the building.
I think of two people especially. One, Welles Remy Crowther, was an equities trader working in one of the towers, but he was also a volunteer firefighter in a nearby suburb. He ran up and down the stairs several times, guiding people out. He died when the towers fell, aged 24.
Another, Abe Zelmanowitz, remained in the building because his best friend, in a wheelchair, couldn't get out.
Those two men have been special beacons to me through these years, and I think of them tonight, because they served light and not darkness.
Last edited by Olympia; 05-02-2011 at 01:17 AM.
Very proud of our military tonight. While it is a victory for Bush/Obama... I say it's the unnamed, unsung heroes that truly hold the victory.
I agree, Toni. How brave those special forces folk had to be, to go in there! I'm in awe of them.
Be careful what you wish for...I am sure there will be repercussions.
no doubt there will be. those that think the war is over are fooling themselves (yeah I'm looking straight at DC and the media).
I love this photo, though - http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...3-custom11.jpg
A victory for BushOriginally Posted by Tonichelle
How about giving credit to Leon Panetta who was ordered by Obama two years ago to do this right after the Bush team spent 8 years doing it wrong.
Whatever, no need to get too political here.
For me it feels like a time for reflection. I don't see any need to label this a "victory" as it was something (revenge) that our leaders felt they had to do.
We will soon see that this victory will turn out to be a no win situation or even a "lose-lose" situation.
Reconciliation is going to be difficult after assassinating Bin-Laden. Don't get me wrong as I think he is a mass murderer who did not deserve mercy. But many others, millions in fact will see and feel much differently about this and they will remain our enemies.
So much of the terror in the world is supported and paid for by the Saudis. If we don't make it clear to them it can't be tolerated it will never stop.
A little backbone from our Nato allies would go a long way too but they need Saudi oil as badly as we do so heads will continue to look the other way as oil companies dictate geo-politcal realities based on profits.
Revenge can feel sweet to some but a more harmonius world would feel even sweeter to me.
Last edited by janetfan; 05-02-2011 at 10:10 AM.
I have to say... I am not really a conspiracy theorist but... well... honestly, the whole "burial at sea" is completely fishy (no pun intended) to me. In fact, it seems Obama's words were oh so carefully chosen last night - he said "we have custody of the body now" - which might have been true at that particular moment. Seems like even the timing of the announcement was such as to avoid the whole burial of the body issue.
To be honest, I do not really believe that Bin Laden was killed yesterday. I do believe that there was a raid which killed some top Al Queda officials. I also believe that Bin Laden is dead - except that honestly I believe he's been dead for years. As of right now, I haven't seen anything to dissuade me.
Absolutely. But those who see him as a hero will always "remain our enemies" no matter what we do. There can be dialog and compromise with those who are "on the fence", yes, I am as much a believer in diplomacy as the next gal - but with some people, unfortunately, the best you can do is limiting their opportunities to do you harm.
You know, this reminds me of an old Israeli joke.
Arafat goes to a fortune teller to ask "When will I die?". The fortune teller looks into her crystal ball, her eyes cloud over, and she says, "Oh, I see it! I see it! You'll die on a big Jewish holiday!". "Which one?" "Any day you die will be a big Jewish holiday!"
Last edited by Ptichka; 05-02-2011 at 10:04 AM.
couldn't agree with you more on all accounts.
Scrooge - we'll learn their names like we're learning names of heroes in WW2 and the Korean War... when they are old and grey (and so are we) when it's thought that it will be safe to do so.
I heard on the radio this morning that the burial was done so that they didn't have to give it to his people to make a hero out of him. They have his DNA.
Love it!!!You know, this reminds me of an old Israeli joke.
Arafat goes to a fortune teller to ask "When will I die?". The fortune teller looks into her crystal ball, her eyes cloud over, and she says, "Oh, I see it! I see it! You'll die on a big Jewish holiday!". "Which one?" "Any day you die will be a big Jewish holiday!"
"Al-Qaida confirmed the killing of Osama bin Laden Friday and vowed revenge"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110506/...laden_al_qaida
Do you believe Al-Qaida is playing along with the USA on this and if so to what purpose
A victory for Bush
How about giving credit to Leon Panetta who was ordered by Obama two years ago to do this right after the Bush team spent 8 years doing it wrong.
Whatever, no need to get too political here.
Well said. And it's sad, yet understandable, that we will never know the names of the brave guys who successfully carried out this operation.
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