Last edited by Joesitz; 05-04-2011 at 02:32 PM.
But then again, why be afraid of change?Originally Posted by Joesitz
I think there is something broken about the Grand Prix. Namely, no-one gives a rusty hoot about the individual events. Its all about trying to accrue enough points to get into the finals.
Why bother to attend Skate America or to try to watch NHK on television? All I have to do is read the newspaper the next day to see how many points someone got. The competitions themselves have become less and less interesting over the years. (JMO, of course.)
There were two kinds of cheesefests. Events that were sanctioned by the ISU as “international” were required to have a certain number of skaters from different countries. I think the rule was that three different countries had to be represented.
The other events were designated on the ISU event calendar as “national events.” These were for American skaters only.
For instance, in 2004 all three of the cheesefests were international. The April Marshalls has skaters from USA, Japan, Russia, and France. The ISU judges were from FRA, JPN, RUS, CAN, and USA.
The December Marshalls had skaters from Russia, USA, and France. Judges were from JPN, USA, RUS, FRA, and CAN.
The October Campbells had skaters from USA, Japan, Hungary, Canada, and France. Judges were from USA, CAN, RUS, FRA, JPN
The next year, 2005, was the Olympic year and the cheesefest sponsors decided to showcase the American skaters only.
After that, the bottom fell out of the figure skating market and these shows disappeared.
I'm not so sure about no one caring about the individual events. Those who look at competitive figure skating care. It's just the arm chair ones who like the gimmicks that don't give a hoot, but they will look at them for the sake of perceived art while serious fans look at new skaters on the block, improvements in Tech, Performance, and overal all competitive skating whether they make the finals or not. But you could be right that some fans only want to watch the seeded skaters. well, so be it. I, and others like to take it all in.
Enough on the Cheesefests, we'll agree to disagree on that topic as to whether they were the next best thing to Worlds.
Christina Gao!! And Richard Dornbush.
Imaginary pogue: Great analysis in post #66. I have read it 5-6 times and am still learning things.
I don't think many are aware that the ISU has decided to cut the number of entries for the GP events.
LADIES and MEN: 10 entries, down from 12
DANCE: 8 entries, down from 10
PAIRS: remain at 8
With seeds being allowed to do 3 events, that drastically reduces the number of slots available for other skaters. I've heard that guarantees will no longer be given to JGPF/JW medalists. I wouldn't be surprised to find that the ISU will cut back on the other guarantees (top 24 World Ranking/top 24 Seasons Best score list) as well. Given the shrinkage in the number of spots available, many fewer skaters and teams will get two events, so there is likely to be little suspense as to who will make the GPF.
Oh, and the JGPF will be cut down to six finalists from 8.
Unlike a federal government, ISU can't print money. They have to take austerity measures, especially after the loss from the original Worlds being cancelled. Hopefully, the popularity and the financial resourses for figure skating will rebound. They can at least rotate location wise. After all, rotation is a figure skating specialty!
^^^At least the tennis federation never had to have suffered from earthquakes, a tsunami, and nuclear meltdown threats. ISU is a minor victim of these disasters relatively speaking. It is a rough time to get over, and to rebuild from. After all, we managed to have enjoyed a successful World Championships.
Sure, the ISU will save $ by not having to pay for hotel rooms for 8 people. But they could have saved even more money if the ISU contingent didn't stay in the most expensive hotels in every GP city. There's a whole lot more than 8 of them!
Just wait. In another year or so, the GP events will be down to 6 and it'll be the top 12 from Worlds doing reruns for 3 months.
When the USFSA contract with ABC expired, the USFSA created a new post, Executive Director, just to address marketing issues. Both of the two people who have held this position have had extensive experience in sports TV from the marketing and business side. But...
On the international level, the Grand Prix may go out of business if it can't pay for itself.
Anyhow, my figuring turned out that the only division hurt by the 3 events would be Pairs. I'm not sure if that's true. The others should be as they always were except maybe less slots for entrants.
I agree the Pairs will knock out a possible Bronze medal as it did before. If there is a problem with my conclusion on the other divisions, it will knock out a possible a Bronze for each of those divisions also. It is not in the interest of the athletes, but it will assist the rental of the premises, if it brings in more paying customers to the event.