I would not want to risk further deteriortation of Skate America just to get Ashley or Jeremy into the GPF.
Show me a benefit to US Skating and I will go along with the GP placement "strategy".
Basically I agree with mathman and trying to avoid competition to make it to a final (that carries little importance) seems unsporting.
People identify with and are emotionally invested in home teams, which represent them and their superiority. They are war substitutes. Instead of doing battles with destructive and lethal weapons, the combats are ritualized and regulated with rules, so people can have a physical and healthy outlet for aggression and competitiveness. Competing and winning vicariously is especially great for fans with few of the attributes of the players.
Like other individual sports, which may include pairs, skating features excellence achieved by dedicated athletes. We celebrate and enjoy their talents and accomplishments as human beings. Even with national pride for our own, we can't help admiring the oppositions when they earn our respect and win our hearts over. Figure skating is a performance art as well, so beautiful to watch, making it much more marketable than track and field where the competition may be over within seconds it takes to run 100m, or to jump over a certain height or distance.
Marketing figure skating competition is different and more complicated than skating as entertainment. As beautiful and "pageantry" as it is, it is also extremely technical, beyond the understanding and appreciation of most fans and general public. Fairness requires complex yet somewhat subjective judgement but perception of fairness must be clear and obvious for the satisfaction of the general audiences. There lies a challenge.
Skate America should feature the best the United States has to offer against the strongest international stars that we can attract. What is the point of having a competition at all if you don’t bring your best?.
Yes, there are also international competitions, like Worlds, etc. But these do not fall within the purview of the USFSA and its marketing team.
Oh, how furiously I bang the keyboard if someone dares to say something mean about Michelle Kwan! Grrr. What satisfaction!
Absolutely. Right after we crush them 266.39 to a paltry 259.40 in the arena, we can sit back and applaud the beauty of their spread eagle into a triple Lutz. (Actually, it was a flutz -- get out of town with that mess!)Like other individual sports, which may include pairs, skating features excellence achieved by dedicated athletes. We celebrate and enjoy their talents and accomplishments as human beings.
Now that the genius Mathman has found a way to market figure skating like football, let's hope ISU listens and follows up with a plan to sell figure skating as a prime time sport it should be!
I don't remember if it was here or on some other board that I read a very clever and somewhat proven plot to sell skating tickets in China. What needs to be done is to create a fan war, attendence wise. Put a challenge to the Chinese by bringing up how enthusiastic and supportive the Koreans or Japanese fans are and how high the attendence is at a certain comparable event, and vice versa, to get the nationalistic competitiveness going. "We will show them who can fill an arena fuller faster!"
Wars are started for profits all the time. Why not exploit it for figure skating?
there is no fear in hiding. We expect two top worlds medalists to be on board, and if you think a lucky 3rd or 4 place will get the US skater(s) into the Finals, think again. Czisny, yes. She placed 6th in Worlds. Why kill her chance of getting to the Finals with another skater like Mirai? But if Czisny is considered an automatic for Seeded placements, how will that affect the Host Country? and how are the Seeded placements placed in any event?
Hernando - I am more into sport than marketing. I think that's a job for the ISU. If the cookie crubles, let it.
Oh wait nevermind now it's top 50 is the cutoff so SA is Caroline's only shot, it's a shame as she missed eligibility by one slot...
The minimum score per discipline is 66.6% of the highest score on the Seasons Best list. For ladies, that is 134.3.
Some too-low scores:
133.86 Caroline Zhang
133.65 Cheltzie Lee (AUS)
132.15 Jenna McCorkell (GBR)
131.20 Elena Glebova (EST)
125.64 Alexe Gilles
OK. It's a fun thread, and I shouldn't post anything serious whether it's wrong or right. Enjoy your selections.
Being eligible doesn't necessarily mean a skater is likely to get invitations. With only 10 singles skaters and half of the 10 from the top 12 at Worlds, there aren't a lot of available slots. It helps to be high on the World Ranking list and in the top 30 or so of the Seasons best list. It also helps to be from a host nation, or to be among the top skaters from a federation.
Geng will get a host pick and maybe one other. Kwak is the #2 Korean skater and should get at least one invitation.
But Juulia Turkkila isn't Finnish #1 or #2 (Lepisto, Korpi); she is #88 on the World Ranking list and #44 on the Seasons Best list. Last year, her best finish was 10th in a JGP event. Technically, she is eligible, but there are other far more accomplished skaters higher on both lists who don't have much chance to get invitations. Juulia is only 16 and another year on the JGP could help her chances for next year.