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    Michelle looks great in indigo in your avatar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
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    Michelle looks great in indigo in your avatar.
    ... I quit.

    Going off into a tangent here, but fabrics can't be dyed with blue indigo. They have to be turned into something called leuco indigo first. The fabrics turn blue when washed with water and are allowed to react with the oxygen in the air.

    Yes, I know, it's very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volk View Post
    People normally don't turn away while they congratulate somebody.
    I like both Kim and Mao, so I'm not trying to be hater. I just confused by what happened.
    Why even assume she "muttered" something? To me it looked like she just opened her mouth and took a breath through her mouth. And as for her expression, it looks like after hugging Miki her face just goes blank as she stepped onto the podium.

    Sheesh. Why do some people feel the need to read too much from people's reactions and body language and assume the worst? Like Yuna's tears, for instance. They're saying it's gotta be because she got silver or was second to Miki. Puhlease....

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftertherain View Post
    ... I quit.

    Going off into a tangent here, but fabrics can't be dyed with blue indigo. They have to be turned into something called leuco indigo first. The fabrics turn blue when washed with water and are allowed to react with the oxygen in the air.

    Yes, I know, it's very interesting.
    May I ask how you came across this knowledge? First hand experience or just random research?
    Quote Originally Posted by Krislite View Post
    Sheesh. Why do some people feel the need to read too much from people's reactions and body language and assume the worst? Like Yuna's tears, for instance. They're saying it's gotta be because she got silver or was second to Miki. Puhlease....
    But what would figure skating be without teh drama? XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilith11 View Post
    May I ask how you came across this knowledge? First hand experience or just random research?
    It was part of a "Dyeing fabrics" experiment in a lab class I took.

    But going back to costumes, does anyone know why Yuna chose black dresses for all three of her programs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aftertherain View Post
    ... I quit.

    Going off into a tangent here, but fabrics can't be dyed with blue indigo. They have to be turned into something called leuco indigo first. The fabrics turn blue when washed with water and are allowed to react with the oxygen in the air.

    Yes, I know, it's very interesting.
    It is interesting! (Yes, I am a geek. And I'm especially geeky about color.)

    I think YuNa wears black because she looks good in it. I wish Miki Ando would wear simple black costumes sometimes. I've seen videos of her in black practice clothes, and she looks sophisticated and beautiful. YuNa looks, as the thread title says, enigmatic--a gorgeous lady of mystery. I notice people who look impressive in black because I look awful in it--washed out and as if I've given up on life--and I never wear it. Not even black velvet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftertherain View Post
    It was part of a "Dyeing fabrics" experiment in a lab class I took.

    But going back to costumes, does anyone know why Yuna chose black dresses for all three of her programs?
    Oooh, sounds really interesting! :O Any other interesting dyeing processes?

    Probably what Olympia said... she just looks really good in black especially when it's contrasted against her skin which I've heard referred to as like a porcelain doll's. :3 I personally also think love sleeves work beautifully on her, serving to just further accentuate her long graceful arms
    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    I notice people who look impressive in black because I look awful in it--washed out and as if I've given up on life--and I never wear it. Not even black velvet.
    But black is a color that works w/any :O What about a tan, would that help?

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    Instead of trying to get more color on me, I just put more color in my clothing. When I want to see people looking dramatically good in black, I look at skaters like YuNa. Porcelain skin, indeed!

    I think one thing about black as a skating costume is that it looks more adult. (Deep colors like burgundy and midnight blue have the same effect.) To me, this conveys artistic maturity and leads me to expect a smoother style, better command of technique, and deeper interpretation of the music. It's harder to imagine some coltish baby ballerina wearing black: she'd have less success carrying it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    . It's harder to imagine some coltish baby ballerina wearing black: she'd have less success carrying it off.
    From Russia With Love

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjX0dntcBsg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hernando View Post
    To be fair, the outfit is obviously a ballet-outfit... and she is skating to Swan Lake, possibly as the black swan. :3

    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    Instead of trying to get more color on me, I just put more color in my clothing. When I want to see people looking dramatically good in black, I look at skaters like YuNa. Porcelain skin, indeed!

    I think one thing about black as a skating costume is that it looks more adult. (Deep colors like burgundy and midnight blue have the same effect.) To me, this conveys artistic maturity and leads me to expect a smoother style, better command of technique, and deeper interpretation of the music. It's harder to imagine some coltish baby ballerina wearing black: she'd have less success carrying it off.
    Well the world always could use with a bit more color... plus, you might not have black but you have a whole world of color to play with ;3

    Hmm, added on to the second part, I'd like to say black also says something about what kind of music to expect from the skater. If I saw a skater wearing black, I'd expect powerful/intense/passionate music. Music that could seize control of an audience by itself and thus would require an even more powerful skater to dominate it. For example, Michelle's "Miraculous Mandarin" and Yu-na's "Danse Macabre" :3

    And on the subject of music, I'd love to see Yu-na skate to Isle of the Dead by Rachmaninov (though of she stays competitive, after she skates Arirang to its fullest which I feel, even undercooked so to speak as it was at Worlds, has the makings of a masterpiece ala Lu Chen's "Butterfly Lovers" or Michelle's "Lyra Angelica"): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N10YZ2Sk3Kg (Part 2 is in the sidebar). And I'd like to see one of the Russian babies try their hands at "Marche Slave" by Tchaikovsky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5poSw7tFLB4 Perhaps Elizaveta who has the regal demeanor and sense of drama to pull it off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hernando View Post
    I can't believe she landed jumps in that! Wow. The next baby Sasha.

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    I'm certainly a long time fan too as my own nickname says, well, not since 1860, of course.
    After reading this thread, regarding Yuna's tears on the podium, I'd like to share some quotes from an interview she made during her show "All that Skate Spring" which was broadcasted on SBS just yesterday. In this interview, she herself explains what feelings were behind her tears. The video was kindly translated by Sundy7 @ ATY Blog and you can watch it at this link.

    http://yunakimfan.com/blog/2011/05/08/6825/

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    I'm with you, Lilith11, about Rachmaninoff's Isle of the Dead. Thanks for the link; I'm listening right now. For a guy who was a piano specialist, he's an astonishing orchestrator, isn't he? His Second Symphony also has a lot of wonderful sections. And you're right: The Isle of the Dead could definitely be skated wearing black--and it had better be skated by someone who can call up a bit of mystery and depth. I generally think of Rachmaninoff as nocturnal: all blacks and deep midnight blues.

    Since we're suggesting music...I think there's some lovely Rimsky-Korsakov that's ripe for skaters, for instance some of the music from his orchestral suite of the opera Le Coq d'Or. Unlike this Rachmaninoff, the Rimsky-Korsakov is brighter, happier, and more varied in rhythm.

    Hernando, that Black Swan piece is very impressive! How clever to have her portray Odile, the black swan, instead of Odette! Though I have to say, that "pancake" Russian-style tutu could have been modified for skating. I kept thinking it would distort the air currents and goof up her jumps and spins. They should somehow have suggested a tutu, not given her a literal one. I also feel that her interpretation was a bit immature still. (And nothing wrong with that. How old is she at this point? Give her time.) So I stand by what I said in my earlier post about baby ballerinas not carrying off black (and its mood) with complete success. But obviously that is a completely subjective reaction on my part! Pay it no mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    I'm with you, Lilith11, about Rachmaninoff's Isle of the Dead. Thanks for the link; I'm listening right now. For a guy who was a piano specialist, he's an astonishing orchestrator, isn't he? His Second Symphony also has a lot of wonderful sections. And you're right: The Isle of the Dead could definitely be skated wearing black--and it had better be skated by someone who can call up a bit of mystery and depth. I generally think of Rachmaninoff as nocturnal: all blacks and deep midnight blues.

    Since we're suggesting music...I think there's some lovely Rimsky-Korsakov that's ripe for skaters, for instance some of the music from his orchestral suite of the opera Le Coq d'Or. Unlike this Rachmaninoff, the Rimsky-Korsakov is brighter, happier, and more varied in rhythm.

    Oh ITA on Rachmaninoff; he was a musical genius no matter what way you spin it. I imagine whoever skates to this who need aside from that sense of mystery and depth, must have a sort of repressed emotional intensity and power just lingering below the surface. Certainly, a mature skater would be needed to do this piece justice, one who could understand etwined nature of life and death :3

    Thanks for the suggestion Olympia; I just looked up Le Coq d'Or and such a beautiful piece! I'd imagine a light skater such as Mao could do wonders with it especially this part: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3jEJJXFKX4 Really, I do wonder why people do not explore more of Rimsky's works, he certainly have a rich and varied reportoire. If Rachmaninoff is to be charactered by black/deep blue, than Rimsky would be crimson- vibrant, majestic, and lively but no less passionate or emotionally compelling than Rachmaninoff.

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    Oh, yes, that's one of my favorite parts of the suite too, Lilith. I just finished listening! It's got such a wonderful variety of rhythms, and it's so jubilant. It just needs a bit of cutting to bring it in under the time limit. I agree that Mao could do a splendid job. If she wants to honor Tarasova by skating to something Russian, this would bring out her sparkling personality and buoyant musicality as well as being quintessentially Russian. You're right about the color; crimson suits this wonderfully.

    So we've got YuNa's and Mao's upcoming season all arranged. (If they'd just listen to us!) Interesting that we've assigned two frequently skated composers, Rachmaninoff and Rimsky-Korsakov, but neither of our pieces is commonly skated to at all. No Scheherezade, no second piano concerto. Aren't we clever?

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