it's more than 1 year ago......but is it possible that he was UNABLE to do it? unable to add 2 after 43, unable to put more jumps in the 2nd half of the program. it's a possibility instead of a judgement -- he just could not afford it.Originally Posted by Jaana
Plushenko wasn´t prepared for the Olympics, the break was too long and he was really out of shape when he decided to come back. He skates much better now than he was before 2009-2010 season. The question is if his age and injuries will allow him to keep improving.
Last edited by ciocio; 05-25-2011 at 03:34 AM.
yeap, that also for the rest of the field,minus kozuka and dai. Should they all stay home?
honestl, I could have beaten Plushenko the way he skated at Worlds 2000
Sorry for offtopic but what happened to Elvis after 2000? He skated quite well at 2000 Worlds, then next year he placed 10th, it was because of an injury or simply because of his age?
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2001...ps-elvis-livesThere had been legitimate hope for this comeback. Stojko, who turns 29 tomorrow, was healthier than he has been since the lead-up to the 1998 Olympics. He finished second in his qualifying group on Monday, a skate that counted 20% of the final standings.
"Everything is there," said Stojko, before skating last night. "I'm a little tick slow. Over the years I've done quads time and time again and people have taken that for granted. So if I did a clean performance here, it's like, 'Oh, he's back, no big deal, he can do it.' I can build on this."
Then, he headed out for a short program and lost his way again.
I think it was just a flop?
What I don't get is if the guy is so bad and surely will fail in Sochi, what's the point of all these multi-pages talks of his "admirers" if they will have nothing to lose to him?
Once again, I think Plushenko knows that he could not beat Chan. Still there is a good reason for him to come back. If Plushenko were at 2011 Worlds and skated like how he had skated at 2010 Olympics, he'd get silver, Kozuka would have gotten bronze, and Gachinski would have gotten 4th.
Plushenko is consistent. This is the greatest asset for him. Unlike Lysacek who has only triples in his pocket, Plushenko has quad and consistency. In the field of inconsistent competitors (Chan is not in this inconsistency category any more.), Plushenko is a real threat to any of these top competitors.
Granted, Plushenko is getting older and the road to him is getting tougher while Gachinski is going up. But I have no doubt that Plushenko is still competitive. Unless one day, his knees failed him (wish they will not!!!!!!), he'll continue like Energizer bunny. Plushenko has the spirit of Yagudin who once said at his tearing speech before his farewell performance in 2003, "You have to kill me to stop me skating." That's how a legend thinks.
I'm sure if Chan did that, he'd be in the 24th place.
Last edited by Bluebonnet; 05-25-2011 at 10:44 AM.
^Energizer bunny????Loool
quote from your article i cracked up:
You can tell the two Russians, Plushenko and Yagudin, because they can both jump and move their arms gracefully at the same time.
old articles ARE fun
you forgot to say, Plushenko Olympic champion, that is big diffrenceTheir records are very close indeed
Stojko:
- 3-time world champ
- first to land 4/2, 4/3
- 2-time olympic medalist
- 4-time olympian
Plushy:
- 3-time world champ
- first to land 4/3/2, 4/3/3
- 3-time olympic medalist
- 3-time olympian
Plushy invited Stojko to 'Kings on Ice', so he respects Stojko.
Yes, the quality of the medals means more than quantity.you forgot to say, Plushenko Olympic champion, that is big diffrence
Plushenko has dominated skating world for many years. Stojko has never dominated any. That was a huge difference too.
quality is subjective, just as "artistic", unless there is any standard for them. i am pretty sure in figure skating history book (if there is any), it won't say Stojko won 2 high quality Olympic medals and the totol value is 15.8; while plushy won 3 low quality ones and the total value 13.52.
for plushy's dominance, if i were ptf, i would say......he could dominate because there is no real competition
This propaganda might work well in North American media, but not in the rest of the world, because real problem was the judging, especially in SP.
You are right very little needed-fair judging. This is only reason Plushenko got so many fans now after 2010.IMHO
Talking about Plushenko, anything is possibleBut will the situation be like that in 2014 anymore? Yeah, although his mind will be hungry, his body will be 4 years older. Will that body be able to obey his mind and what more injuries he might be getting during the years before the 2014 Olympics? Of course injuries are a risk for every skater, but besides that Plushenko will also be a lot older than most of his competitors
Age difference with main medal contenders will be the same as at Vancouver, except Gachinsky , who didn’t compete.
And no one knows how judges will judge and who will skate his best.
They are!^Energizer bunny????Loool
quote from your article i cracked up:
You can tell the two Russians, Plushenko and Yagudin, because they can both jump and move their arms gracefully at the same time.
old articles ARE fun
Wow. I actually thought Plushenko would've been much further ahead of Stoijko. Realistically, the only difference is the Olympic Gold (which is a huge difference).
Ooh, we get to talk about 2010 judging again? Joy. That should be fun!
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