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    USA Team Envelope came out today

    the new team envelop came out today

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    News 2011-12 US team envelopes published


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    I believe this Team Envelopes is all about Funding for 20ll/12.

    Team in C would probably get enough funding for one overseas competition. No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    I believe this Team Envelopes is all about Funding for 20ll/12.
    you are correct that is the main focus of the envelope, and it judged based on their past season's record.

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    No Caroline Zhang? :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by brightphoton View Post
    No Caroline Zhang? :(

    Yeah I noticed that too. I know she finished 12th at Nationals. But I didn't notice a reserve envelope as there has been in years past...is the USFSA not doing a reserve envelope this year or has Caroline fallen that much out of favor? Looks like she'll have to qualify through regionals/sectionals this year...

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    Neither Caroline or Alex Gillies deserved GP events this year. There are to many other deserving skaters coming up that need the experience so why waste them on Zhang or Gillies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silversprings77 View Post
    Yeah I noticed that too. I know she finished 12th at Nationals. But I didn't notice a reserve envelope as there has been in years past...is the USFSA not doing a reserve envelope this year or has Caroline fallen that much out of favor? Looks like she'll have to qualify through regionals/sectionals this year...
    Skaters who are not in the top 6 previous year at US Nationals, need to qualify for the next year through sectionals, or I am wrong? Alissa for example had to this past season.

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    Yeah, Caroline got left out, as did Alexe...

    But honestly, did they do anything last year that should have earned some kind of funding? I don't think so. I feel so bad for Caroline, but this is her fault for failing to address her issues. She should have started fixing her skating back in 2007 if not earlier. Her chances for re-entering the top tier are very unlikely at this point.

    And Alexe seems like a lost cause too...they had their shot. It's time for those who have proved themselves to get the opportunity to go forward, and for the newbies to have their shot. Sad but true...

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    Quote Originally Posted by silversprings77 View Post
    But I didn't notice a reserve envelope as there has been in years past...is the USFSA not doing a reserve envelope this year
    Skaters assigned to an international (JGP, Sr B, GP) who are not already in an envelope will be added to the Reserve team. Relevant envelope criterion reads: "Athletes in the reserve envelope that medal at a senior B international, Junior Grand Prix Series or Grand Prix Series competition will be placed immediately in Team Envelope C - Tier 2 and receive the remaining funding for that season."

    Quote Originally Posted by herios View Post
    Skaters who are not in the top 6 previous year at US Nationals, need to qualify for the next year through sectionals, or I am wrong? Alissa for example had to this past season.
    It's top 5 in Senior at Nationals that automatically get a bye through Regionals (Oct.) and Sectionals (Nov.) to next year's Nationals. Any other skaters competing internationally may be granted a bye through Regionals and/or Sectionals depending on the timing and location of their international(s).

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    What about Samuelson-Bates? They are in Team C now - could they skaye at GP this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by npa View Post
    What about Samuelson-Bates? They are in Team C now - could they skaye at GP this season?
    There are two things they can do. First is get an invite to Skate America. This is probable. The second is go to a Senior B (most likely Nebelhorn) and get a seasons best to get onto the list for substitutes. If they end up at or near the level they were in the Olympic season, their SB could be high enough to get them a second slot via substitutions. If not, the ranking points they get from said Senior B contributes to their overall standings, which still helps.

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    Whether it's her fault or not, I do feel bad for Zhang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    Whether it's her fault or not, I do feel bad for Zhang.
    I do too. Her dismal placement last season which has resulted in no funding and probably no GP assignments might be just what Caroline needs
    to assess her situation and ask herself, can I improve or have I tried my best and unfortunately it is just not good enough to be competitive.
    My fingers are crossed that things will work out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by npa View Post
    What about Samuelson-Bates? They are in Team C now - could they skaye at GP this season?
    Skating on the Grand Prix is not determined by envelope level, as the USFS press release states:
    "The envelope level is primarily determined by the athlete's performance in international and U.S. Figure Skating competitions during the previous season, and is used to determine funding levels. It is not used as a strict guideline for selections to international competitions."

    For example, last year Marissa Castelli/Simon Shnapir did not qualify for a funded envelope but they were invited to a Senior Grand Prix (Skate Canada) based on their top 24 ISU World Standings ranking and were then placed in the Reserve team envelope.

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