(I think the US gave up on them when Michelle Kwan lost to Josee Chouinard at the Pro-Am Skate Canada event... just a theory on that one. When a has been - and an almost unknown to the average viewer - beats out the goddess of all skating... well...)
Here's the link: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sh...planned-for-2012-(Scott-Hamilton-s-brainchild)What we need is a competive competion for Skaters who left the competition world but still manage to skate I'd love to see the Stars on Ice celebs to compete with so many others who we don't even mention, but no clowning, please.
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Sylvia has posted a new thread for a return of exciting and innovative competitions.
The minimum age for the 2011-12 JGP is 13 years old by June 30, 2011. Julia Lipnitskaya and Daria Medvedeva will be old enough, according to a post on FSU. I'll check on Radionova.Does anyone know if any of the Russian girls Radionova, Lipnitskaya or Medvedeva will be age eligible for JGP etc this season? I know how old they are but I dont remember at all the age eligibility for juniors.
That's true I do not read every post in a thread, but this was not the first time she attacked me. It gets tiresome and unfortunaely I lost my patience with constant attacks. I agree with you I only make matters worse. I welcome explanations where I erred, but I have never seen that from her. It would be nice if she explained why she brought up again that Midori was skating as an adult skater when I was suggesting a Retired Champion Competition in the future.^
There is no need to be so condescending toward other posters. I seem to recall you yourself saying recently that you did not have time to read every post in a thread, Joesitz, and the same is true for many of us. Nothing in mskater's post merits such an intemperate response. Even if she or he had said something offensive, it only makes matters worse to reply in such an ad hominem way.
I was suggesting a Retired Champion Competition in the future.
(I think the US gave up on them when Michelle Kwan lost to Josee Chouinard at the Pro-Am Skate Canada event... just a theory on that one. When a has been - and an almost unknown to the average viewer - beats out the goddess of all skating... well...)
blue dog said:Some viewers were annoyed because credentials seemed to have decided the winners in the ladies' event. The format was three weekends--a program per weekend. Katarina Witt won the ladies with doubles, and with her usual "flirt with the audience" routine. Many (including me) were annoyed, when Rory Flack Burghardt had three different programs, had triples up to the flip, and was very entertaining...finished fifth behind Witt, Manley, Sumners, and another skater.
What year was this and how well did Chouinard skate as opposed to Kwan? Any YouTube clips?
The minimum age for the 2011-12 JGP is 13 years old by June 30, 2011. Julia Lipnitskaya and Daria Medvedeva will be old enough, according to a post on FSU. I'll check on Radionova.
ETA: Elena Radionova will be JGP age-eligible in the 2012-13 season, according to another post on FSU.
^^^^ What did Lulu do? How did she lose out on interpretation?!
SkateFiguring said:Josee had nerve problems and never performed to her ability in "amateur" competitions but she found success as a professional and won a few pro competitions.
Joe, thank you for taking my post seriously and not personally. I appreciate it. I would still like to defend mskater, though, since you are continuing to criticize him or her. I don't have a clue about the history of his or her posts, but I didn't see anything like an attack in the post you are referring to. The two of you seemed to be talking about different things, perhaps without realizing it. Not something worth getting upset about, IMHO.That's true I do not read every post in a thread, but this was not the first time she attacked me. It gets tiresome and unfortunaely I lost my patience with constant attacks. I agree with you I only make matters worse. I welcome explanations where I erred, but I have never seen that from her. It would be nice if she explained why she brought up again that Midori was skating as an adult skater when I was suggesting a Retired Champion Competition in the future.
Anyway, back on topic, I have to say that as a fan I'd be much more interested in seeing a Retired Champion Competition than a regular "adult" competition...
and if I were an "adult" skater (which sounds sort of porny, LOL), I would not be too happy to find myself competing against Midori Ito!!
IMO Michelle was wuz robbed at the 2000 Sears Canadian Open. Both Michelle's SP and LP were far superior to Josee's programs. Carroll was irate for a reason.
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I'm talking about Did it make Money? Were the viewers interested in the frolicking comps? They did leave, and no sponsors, so did the networks. No? Some fans have to realize that figure skaters have limited celebrity status. But hold on Toni. Sylvia has posted a new thread for a return of exciting and innovative competitions.
They had something similar to this in 1998, called "Legends of Figure Skating." The competitors' list were many of the winners in the 70's, 80's and 90's, with some unknowns thrown in. Some viewers were annoyed because credentials seemed to have decided the winners in the ladies' event. The format was three weekends--a program per weekend. Katarina Witt won the ladies with doubles, and with her usual "flirt with the audience" routine. Many (including me) were annoyed, when Rory Flack Burghardt had three different programs, had triples up to the flip, and was very entertaining...finished fifth behind Witt, Manley, Sumners, and another skater.
One has to realize that topics stray away from the main point. The Ladies in 2011/1012 have stray away into yesteryear stars. I think Midori Ito deserved a topic of just her. Adult Skating, too could use a topic on its own. Reminising(s) about Josie is par for long topics, but it beats movies.Anyway, back on topic, I have to say that as a fan I'd be much more interested in seeing a Retired Champion Competition than a regular "adult" competition... and if I were an "adult" skater (which sounds sort of porny, LOL), I would not be too happy to find myself competing against Midori Ito!!
As it is, Midori's in a group of 2 skaters and if I were the other skater, I would be THRILLED just to share the ice with her and be second and to have my picture taken on the podium with her, even if she won by 50 or 100 points, so long as I skated MY best.
I couldn't find either performance on You Tube. It was the 2000 Sears Canadian open. Each skater did two programs, a "technical program" and an "interpretive program." For her technical program Michelle did her East of Eden short program and led that segment. In the interpretative program Michelle gave a rather perfunctory performance of her exhibition program to Beautiful World.
Josee's interpretive program was a little Lori Nichol gem to Humoresque where she portrayed a Harlequin releasing a baby bird. She fell on her hardest element, a triple Lutz. Technically, Michelle was superior. But the judges felt that since this was the "interpretive" program, Josee actually interpreted the music while Michelle's program was just generic pretty skating.
Frank Carroll was quite irate at the result.
Sarah Hughes was third (Bye Bye Blackbird ), followed by Jennifer Robinson, Lu Chen, and Surya Bonaly.
By the way, the best resource for results of those old competitions in the Golden Skate archives, accessed form the Golden Skate home page.
http://www.goldenskate.com/competitions/proam/can.shtml