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    'ICE' ISU Open Pro-Am series planned for 2012 (Scott Hamilton's brainchild)

    From ISU Communication no. 1671 (dated April 19, 2011):
    The ISU Council gave its agreement in principle to create a series of annual Open International Competitions which shall be skated over a period of three separate television competitions, to be held on three separate weeks in three different geographical locations, in principle one in Asia, one in Europe and one in North America. The participants in this series may be among eligible and ineligible skaters and should be a medallist of either a ISU World Championships or Olympic Winter Games in their respective discipline within the previous ten years.

    The initiative was presented by a United States based organization called ICE - International Cup of Skating Excellence, LLC (hereafter called "ICE"), who includes as its Chief Creative Officer the 1984 Olympic Figure Skating Champion, Mr. Scott Hamilton.

    Subject to receiving a satisfactory detailed proposal of ICE (location, dates, confirmed cooperation/understanding with the concerned ISU host Members, invited skaters, event format and technical package (free skating only), prize money etc), the ISU is available to sanction three competitions during the season 2011/12 that cannot be in conflict with any ISU Event and/or national championships of the concerned host Members.

    Further details and the Announcement shall be released as soon as the specific ICE proposal has been received and approved.
    I just came across what looks like an official site for this project: http://icechampionship.com/
    http://icechampionships.blogspot.com/p/about-us.html
    ICE CONCEPT
    Select group of skaters invited from all four disciplines: Ladies, Men’s Pairs and Ice Dance.
    Three-week competition: Two rounds on consecutive weeks, then the finals.
    International series: A different country hosting each week of competition.
    Nine hours of compelling TV programming: Three, three-hour programming blocks.
    Fresh and unpredictable: Skaters perform new routines in first two rounds.
    Head-to-head finals: The top two in each discipline qualify for their championship.
    Exciting, fan-friendly performances featuring contemporary music.
    Innovative and interactive presentation of elements and scores for television and live audience.
    Cash bonuses for landing technically difficult jumps.

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    What a nice idea! It will have to take place after Worlds and before GPs.

    I would imagine Unisport to carry it in NAmerica but will they also show it in Europe and Asia?
    (Lots of logistics to consider for this undertaking.)

    What are Exciting Fan Friendly performances to contemporary music mean? I presume that means Hamilton's Golf Program but
    not to any music written by Debussy. Maybe a rock and roll number.

    Cash bonuses for landing difficult jumps. I can hear an announcer saying that Quad Axel deserves a $100 bonus.

    Will the judges be showbiz celebs looking for innovative and interactive presentation and scores?

    I guess I'm being facetious but I will look at the first comp and if it is not silly, I will look at the others.

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    I am feeling the same misgivings as Joe about this. Bob Dustin was the producer of many of the cheesiest cheesefests in the 1990s and early 2000s (Too Hot to Skate, etc.) Bobby Goldwater is a big name in sports facilities and venue management. He was part of the management team for Madison Square Gardens for a long time (maybe still is?)

    This company is an "LLC" (Limited Liability Company), meaning that investors can buy into the company without assuming liability for its losses. 2012 is not far away. They must have some sponsorships and television deals lined up already.

    To me, too, the part about "exciting fan friendly performances to contemporary music" sounds a lot like those shows that hire a rock and roll band to try to attract ...(actually, I am not sure whom.) A cash prize for doing a hard jump seems like a gimmick.Isn't this a competition? Do we have to pay them to put a jump in their competitive programs?

    Now here is where Joe and I don't agree. I think the old Marshall's and Campbell's competitions were great. In the fall Campbell's we got the first showing of the skater's new competitive programs for the year, and by the December Marshall's we could see how they were coming along.

    There were also some very worthwhile pro-am competitions in the "Masters of Figure Skating" series in 2000, 2001 and 2002 (called the Hallmark Championship in 2002.)

    Here are the results from 2000:

    Men
    1. Todd Eldredge, Exotica, The 13th Warrior
    2. Alexei Yagudin, Etude of Revolution, The Gladiator
    3. Ilia Kulik, Devil's Trill, Rockit
    4. Stephen Cousins, Cool Jazz, It's About That Walk

    Ladies
    1. Michelle Kwan, Tracks and Lines/Bad Love, Beautiful World
    2. Irina Slutskaya, Culture, Schindler's List
    3. Yuka Sato, The Islay Maiden, Take My Hand
    4. Maria Butyrskaya, Scene D'Amour, Possession
    5. Chen Lu, Take Five, Within You, Without You

    Pairs
    1. Elena Berezhnaya & Anton Sikharulidze, Polyushke Poyle (Meadowlands), Smooth
    2. Kyoko Ina & John Zimmerman, Truman Show, My Baby You
    3. Xue Shen & Hongbo Zhao, Allegretto, Beethoven's Last Night

    And 2001

    Men
    1. Alexei Yagudin, Winter, Man in the Iron Mask
    2. Todd Eldredge, Jumpin' Jack, 1492
    3. Ilia Kulik, Pick up the Pieces, Rubber Band Man
    4. Steven Cousins, Shine on You Crazy Diamond, Belfast Child

    Ladies
    1. Irina Slutskaya, Serenade, Samson and Delilah
    2. Michelle Kwan, East of Eden, Fields of Gold
    3. Yuka Sato, Color of Roses, The Colour Of Roses
    4. Sasha Cohen, My Sweet and Tender Beast, To Love You More
    5. Maria Butyrskaya, Melody of the White Nights, All that Jazz/Cabaret

    Pairs
    1. Kyoko Ina & John Zimmerman, Shine on You Crazy Diamond, Battle Hymn of The Republic
    2. Xue Shen & Hongbo Zhao, Kismet, Pink Panther
    3. Mandy Wötzel & Ingo Steuer, No Holly for Miss Quinn, The Greatest Gift Of All

    http://www.goldenskate.com/competiti...2.shtml#hc2002

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Do we have to pay them to put a jump in their competitive programs?
    If it wasn't for Chan that brought the quad in fashion again this season, I was worried we might have to

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    This concept sounds workable to me... although I'm sure I'll dislike most of the music. :sheesh: (I'm frozen in the past musically.) I think the cash for hard jumps is to make sure this isn't just a show-skating contest where jumps are considered dispensable or done at a minimal level. It will also attract the best skaters and deter those who aren't staying in great shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spun Silver View Post
    This concept sounds workable to me... although I'm sure I'll dislike most of the music. :sheesh: (I'm frozen in the past musically.) I think the cash for hard jumps is to make sure this isn't just a show-skating contest where jumps are considered dispensable or done at a minimal level. It will also attract the best skaters and deter those who aren't staying in great shape.
    Like you, I worry about the music. But i'm thrilled at the possibility of substantial skating on TV! I agree with Mathman that some of the so-called cheesefests gave a lot of good skaters a chance to try out new programs, and I have similar hopes for this series. Hey, we're starving out here! Let's hope this is nourishing food for skate fans.

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