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I stand by my statement that the IOC would not support a move toward a more subjective judging system if it's presented as such, i.e., an attempt to privilege fan appeal over technical evaluation.
I agree with SkateFiguring and doubleflutz about the reasons for reducing and eventually eliminating school figures. Don't forget there were also other scoring changes such as the introduciton of factored placements introduced to address some of the same problems but that did not change the judging per se.
I'm sure there will be further adjustments to the scoring system and eventually some change as significant as the elimination of figures or the switch from ordinals to absolute scores. But I do not expect changes designed to make the Olympic track sport more subjective.
Different fans, different feelings. But how does it feel to the skaters?
I recognize that not all fans feel the same way. But I think that new generations of fans who learn to understand skating through detailed protocols will eventually outnumber those who learned to look at results in terms of tech content vs. artistry seen through a rubric of nationalism because that was the only information available in the 6.0 protocols.
From a fan point of view, detailed protocols with individual judges identified would be the most informative.
Do you have any facts to back up your opinion?
You are sure you can predict the future direction of all Olympic sports :think:
But I diasgree with your opinion and even if you can't see it the CoP wih it's micro managing of skatng, with it's all-inclusive subjectivity that extends to the tech panel and even the the elements with GOE is a very subjective system that has been implemeted by ISU.
You just won't admit that CoP is highly subjective but it is there for all to see.
Figures were eliminated mostly for money. They were expensive particularly for the smaller federations and TV had no interest in them. More freeskating = a growing fan base with bigger crowds at the arenas and a winfall of TV money.
Another point you bring up frequently is that skaters and coaches love the CoP. Is that your opinion? I can post some comments from top coaches who do NOT like the CoP along with never ending quotes from legends of the sport who dislike the CoP.
I think you like the CoP gkelly. Are you so sure Frank Carrol and his skaters like it? Does Lambiel like it? What about Johnny?
You are presenting your personal opinions here but I have no doubt some skaters and coaches like the CoP. Probably the Colo Springs gang likes it.
Sasha had some natural abilties that were rewarded by the CoP but at Natls last season she said she did NOT like the CoP and said how much she hated counting the rotations as she was spinning.
I hope skating has a future generation of fans but now it is at a low point in the USA. As to IOC and ISU your opinions are fine but history shows without too much doubt both organizations follow the money. They always have and always will.
I appreciate reading your posts but we have much different opinions. I agree with you about results being as controversial in the 6.0 era as we have seen in the last 4 years.
I always hoped the IJS wouldmake it better but so far that doesn't seem to be the case.
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