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    Ashley Cain replaced Katarina Kulgeyko. (USA)

    Does anybody know what happened to Katarina?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMURA View Post
    I suspect the Chinese federation is secretly admitting the age-fraud of Sui/Han and decided to let them "stay junior" one more year.
    But that would only affect Worlds and 4CC eligibility, as long as Sui turned 14 (not 15) by this past July 1st, then she would be old enough to compete on the senior GP series this season. Remember that the rules to compete on the GP are different than that of Worlds and 4CC, so to me, even if they are admitting to lying about her age, this decision is puzzling. I mean unless she's still 13/turned 14 after July 1st, in which case it would make sense, but I thought the suspected age difference of Sui was only a year or so, and according to her ISU bio, she turned 16 in early July, so she should be ok for the GP. Unless I am missing something?

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    A junior pair can compete at senior GP but that's a kind of extracurricular activity. As long as S/H (presumably) have no chance to compete at senior worlds and are expected to compete at Jr worlds again, their main field should be JGP.

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    the american girls are not as good as you think...

    Quote Originally Posted by FlattFan View Post
    Looks like they updated the list. It's a very deep field. Here are the 13 contenders:

    Zijun LI CHN 7
    Miyabi OBA JPN 15
    Yukiko FUJISAWA JPN 15 S
    Yuki NISHINO JPN 15 S
    Polina AGAFONOVA RUS 22
    Polina SHELEPEN RUS 22
    Rosa SHEVELEVA RUS 22 S
    Yasmin SIRAJ USA 29
    Kiri BAGA USA 29 S
    Samantha CESARIO USA 29 S
    Lauren DINH USA 29 S
    Courtney HICKS USA 29 S
    Vanessa LAM USA 29 S

    For gold, I think it will come down to just three girls
    Polina Shelepen, Samantha Cesario, and Vanessa Lam

    Maybe one of these three will bomb and the other one will get a silver.

    The rest of them can only hope for a bronze at this point. Anyone of them can be out of the top 10 easily.

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    Ladies results

    Ladies SP
    1 Zijun LI CHN 55.09 31.49 23.60 5.96 5.57 6.04 5.89 6.04 0.00 #30
    2 Polina AGAFONOVA RUS 54.60 30.34 24.26 6.11 5.89 6.18 6.04 6.11 0.00 #22
    3 Ashley CAIN USA 49.14 26.02 23.12 5.61 5.50 6.04 5.82 5.93 0.00 #10
    4 Gerli LIINAMAE EST 48.90 28.72 20.18 5.11 5.00 5.04 5.04 5.04 0.00 #15
    5 Polina SHELEPEN RUS 47.92 26.66 21.26 5.36 5.32 5.25 5.39 5.25 0.00 #1
    6 Yasmin SIRAJ USA 46.75 26.75 21.00 5.29 5.21 5.14 5.29 5.32 1.00 #5
    7 Riona KATO JPN 42.12 23.07 20.05 5.14 5.00 5.04 5.00 4.89 1.00 #11
    8 Josefine TALJEGARD SWE 41.46 21.72 19.74 4.86 4.89 4.93 5.00 5.00 0.00 #27
    9 Lenaelle GILLERON-GORRY FRA 40.77 23.63 18.14 4.54 4.46 4.43 4.61 4.64 1.00 #26
    10 Alina FJODOROVA LAT 39.38 22.12 17.26 4.43 4.21 4.25 4.32 4.36 0.00 #21
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    http://www.isuresults.com/results/jgplat2011/SEG003.HTM

    Ladies Sp videos: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL63B4AC3C1D4BED35

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    ^ Wow! ISU has a Youtube channel, where you can watch the programs?! Great! Will they do this for all the JGP events?

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    That is terrific, I hope we'll get to see the other events too.

    1 Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN CHN 54.22 30.50 23.72 5.82 5.75 6.11 5.96 6.00 0.00 #12
    2 Ekaterina PETAIKINA / Maxim KURDUYKOV RUS 46.30 26.62 19.68 4.89 4.71 5.04 4.93 5.04 0.00 #6
    3 Xiaoyu YU / Yang JIN CHN 44.32 25.19 19.13 4.86 4.54 4.79 4.86 4.86 0.00 #2
    4 Margaret PURDY / Michael MARINARO CAN 43.95 25.01 18.94 4.71 4.54 4.89 4.75 4.79 0.00 #4
    5 Tatiana TUDVASEVA / Sergei LISIEV RUS 41.31 23.74 17.57 4.46 4.07 4.46 4.57 4.39 0.00 #1
    6 Ekaterina KRUTSKIKH / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS 40.55 22.49 18.06 4.50 4.21 4.61 4.64 4.61 0.00 #9
    7 Haven DENNEY / Brandon FRAZIER USA 40.38 22.30 19.08 4.75 4.54 4.71 4.93 4.93 1.00 #8
    8 Olivia OLTMANNS / Joshua SANTILLAN USA 39.32 20.64 18.68 4.64 4.50 4.79 4.68 4.75 0.00 #5
    9 Kylie DUARTE / Colin GRAFTON USA 37.99 18.57 19.42 4.71 4.64 4.93 5.00 5.00 0.00 #7
    10 Michelle LUNDBERG / Richard LUNDBERG SWE 37.76 21.42 16.34 4.07 3.82 4.14 4.18 4.21 0.00 #3
    11 Meiyi LI / Bo JIANG CHN 32.68 13.90 18.78 4.82 4.61 4.68 4.79 4.57 0.00 #11
    12 Stina MARTINI / Severin KIEFER AUT 32.44 18.56 14.88 3.75 3.54 3.75 3.89 3.68 1.00 #10
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    Meiyi LI / Bo JIANG got no points for their lift and death spiral. Does anyone know why? I watched their program on Youtube, and it seemed clean, but I'm no expert on the rules. Their double twist and throw triple loop were strong, though...

    I can see why they godt their pairs spin invalidated (free foot down).

    Kylie DUARTE / Colin GRAFTON got their pairs spin invalidated. Anyone see why?

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    That required lutz for the junior ladies this year looks like it's going to be the critical separator of podium finishers from also-rans. Kudos to the Russian Polinas, who landed 2 of only 4 fully-rotated, non-edge called lutzes in the SP. Siraj and Kato the other two, but with more - GOE.

    In Men's SP, what happened to Nam Nguyen and Emmanuel Savary? Thought they would be closer to the front of the pack, haven't had chance to see protocols or videos and I can see ES had 2 falls, but this doesn't seem characteristic.
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    I don't know Savary at all but it seems both he and Nguyen are two very young skaters making their international debuts. So much has to be experienced and learned. Nam's video is up though he was last to skate - his TES BV (26.20)is not high and he botched the first jump, got a >> (thus the low BV) and fell on a spin, all very uncharacteristic. Hopefully he will get his nerves in good order for LP.

    Interesting that both Chinese skaters received much higher PCS than the field whereas 2nd place Hino has the highest TES but pretty low PCS.

    I have expected Zijun to do well after seeing video of her LP from a show. Beautiful and impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sequinsgalore View Post
    Meiyi LI / Bo JIANG got no points for their lift and death spiral. Does anyone know why? I watched their program on Youtube, and it seemed clean, but I'm no expert on the rules. Their double twist and throw triple loop were strong, though...
    Her head wasn't lower than her skating knee in the death spiral (new rule), so that's probably why the death spiral was invalidated. The lift had a funky landing, but I don't know exactly what rule it violated. It's a shame. That was actually a nice program, and they skated pretty well except for some small mistakes from sloppiness. Probably it's nervousness from competing internationally the first time. I've never heard of them before.

    Yu/Jin look a lot more polished and improved from last year. I think they can take silver if they skate well in the FS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFiguring View Post
    Interesting that both Chinese skaters received much higher PCS than the field whereas 2nd place Hino has the highest TES but pretty low PCS.
    Not surprising at all. Little He Zhang is a star in the making. He's really got it all. Amazing maturity and style for someone his age. I thought he was in a class of his own presentation-wise. Liu has also got great skating skills and moves pretty well.

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    I am very impress with the Chinese skaters in all disciplines competed today. Looks like they are trying to take Jr's by storm. I really impress by how artistic the Men were. Really paying attention to the music and playing with the character of it also.

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    shine and enlight, what I find interesting is that after Lu Chen, China's skaters, Men and Pairs, were disadvantaged in the performance aspect, and it took years for Shen/Zhao to excell in artistry while their senior Men have not advanced in that area. Now suddenly we have Han Yan, Zijun Li, Jin Boyang and so many junior Men who have great skating skills and flair which are internationally noticed. What a leap. So far Chinese skaters have won 3 SP in this JGP. This bodes very well for the future of skating in and from China, which can only be good for the sport in general. Can you imagine skaters having Rock Star experriences in China like in Korea and Japan? Such huge market.

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