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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFiguring View Post
    shine and enlight, what I find interesting is that after Lu Chen, China's skaters, Men and Pairs, were disadvantaged in the performance aspect, and it took years for Shen/Zhao to excell in artistry while their senior Men have not advanced in that area. Now suddenly we have Han Yan, Zijun Li, Jin Boyang and so many junior Men who have great skating skills and flair which are internationally noticed. What a leap. So far Chinese skaters have won 3 SP in this JGP. This bodes very well for the future of skating in and from China, which can only be good for the sport in general. Can you imagine skaters having Rock Star experriences in China like in Korea and Japan? Such huge market.
    Yup, all you have to do is look to Li Na and what she's already done for tennis after winning the French Open in June!

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    Even though China has a huge population, so far they are drawing skating talents basically from one provinve, equivalent to a rather small nation. Their potential is unimaginably great if the sport becomes popular and attracts talents from the general population. I think with China, it's often a matter of if the government makes it a goal. E.g. They made incredible and shocking advance in diving, from having only 3 pools in the country to world dominence in a few years. This phenomenom has repeated in a number of sports, now including various expensive Western winter sports. However, I think these days the government is letting the natural development happen, other than financing training and taking care of virtually all aspects of their athletes' careers.

    With more challenges, the sport's level will be lifted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valentine View Post
    Nyguyen was called on his toe axle he does not have a true triple toe , ...... so double downgrade
    That's actually up for debate, though it is evident he will be called << internationally.

    Domestically the callers have studied and broken it down until it's not able to be broken down anymore, and while it is done in a similar style of a toe axel and the take off is not textbook, it is not under-rotated. However, even if the callers were aware internationally and broke it down that much (never would happen), it is poor technique and he should be dinged in GOE regardless.

    They were not too brilliant to let it go domestically knowing it would never get called internationally. They've done the kid a disservice by doing that. We always tell the kids to never leave a doubt and he more than leaves doubt about that rotation with that technique.

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    Oh and what I am most surprised with Nam's marks is that his transitions were so high, I'd have easily dropped them down a point or more - apparently dancing on 2 feet is acceptable these days as long as a few spread eagles are thrown in (especially when it is evident he has the ability for turns, etc as demonstrated by his footwork). It really irks me that such talent is being packaged so poorly and handled so terribly. Such a shame.

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    Short dance results

    1 Maria NOSULIA / Evgen KHOLONIUK UKR 52.62 28.43 24.19 6.11 5.93 6.11 6.04 6.04 0.00 #16
    2 Evgenia KOSIGINA / Nikolai MOROSHKIN RUS 49.76 25.79 24.97 6.21 6.11 6.29 6.39 6.21 1.00 #9
    3 Daria MOROZOVA / Mikhail ZHIRNOV RUS 49.56 27.51 22.05 5.54 5.29 5.50 5.71 5.50 0.00 #12
    4 Karolina PROCHAZKOVA / Michal CESKA CZE 47.56 26.49 21.07 5.29 5.04 5.36 5.39 5.25 0.00 #2
    5 Alexandra ALDRIDGE / Daniel EATON USA 45.98 24.99 21.99 5.50 5.43 5.43 5.61 5.50 1.00 #10
    6 Andreanne POULIN / Marc-Andre SERVANT CAN 43.61 21.07 23.54 5.96 5.89 5.79 5.89 5.89 1.00 #17
    7 Ksenia PECHERKINA / Aleksander JAKUSHIN LAT 42.11 25.20 16.91 4.32 4.21 4.29 4.32 4.04 0.00 #13
    8 Karina UZUROVA / Ilias ALI KAZ 41.58 23.36 18.22 4.61 4.43 4.75 4.64 4.39 0.00 #14
    9 Kate Louise BAGNALL / Rory SHANAHAN GBR 36.64 23.57 13.07 3.46 3.14 3.25 3.39 3.11 0.00 #1
    10 Magalie LEININGER / Maxime CAUREL FRA 36.40 20.90 15.50 4.00 3.71 3.86 3.89 3.89 0.00 #6
    11 Katharina MUELLER / Justin GERKE GER 35.38 20.01 15.37 4.07 3.64 3.89 3.86 3.75 0.00 #4
    12 Myriam GASSOUMI / Clement LE MOLAIRE FRA 35.22 19.03 16.19 4.04 3.93 4.11 4.21 3.96 0.00 #5
    13 Ekaterina BUGROV / Vasili ROGOV ISR 34.60 17.07 17.53 4.50 4.36 4.32 4.46 4.29 0.00 #7
    14 Olga JAKUSHINA / Aleksandrs GRISHINS LAT 33.89 18.42 15.47 4.00 3.82 4.04 4.00 3.57 0.00 #8
    15 Baily CARROLL / Peter GERBER POL 33.81 15.57 18.24 4.61 4.39 4.64 4.61 4.54 0.00 #15
    16 Cagla DEMIRSAL / Berk AKALIN TUR 32.51 19.00 14.51 3.79 3.46 3.64 3.68 3.57 1.00 #11
    17 Danielle GAMELIN / Alexander GAMELIN USA 31.37 18.78 16.59 4.14 4.21 3.93 4.43 4.04 4.00 #3
    18 Eugenia TKACHENKA / Yuri GULITSKI BLR 23.44 13.02 10.42 2.68 2.50 2.54 2.64 2.64 0.00 #18

    Kosigina/Moroshkin are only in 2nd placed, as they only got 1 out of 6 key points correct (nice that they write this in the protocols). Ukrainian Nosula/Kholoniuk sits in 1st. Their previous highest placement on the JGP's is a 5th place.

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    D. GAMELIN / A. GAMELIN had 4 deductions! Poor kids(( She fell on twizzles, then both fell on step sequence.

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    I really liked Kosigina/Moroshkin! She grew up from last season and has lovely lines but they always mess up the compulsories part! With so much depth in the Russian Ice dance they need to get their act together.

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    ^ Yeah, a slippery day for the US dancers. Alexandra Aldridge (who dances with Daniel Eaton) also fell at then end of their non-touching step seq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbyskates View Post
    They were not too brilliant to let it go domestically knowing it would never get called internationally. They've done the kid a disservice by doing that. We always tell the kids to never leave a doubt and he more than leaves doubt about that rotation with that technique.
    You mean like McLeod let Mira Leung get away with it too? Don't worry, it will amuse you to know that McLeod's already compared Nam to Kim, Kwan and Chan. The famous ones (:D).

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    Congratulations to Canadian pairs Purdy/Marinaro on the bronze medal. Why do Poulin/Servant always screw up at major competitions. They are a very good team but always succumb to stupid mistakes.

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    Congrats to all the medalists.

    Quote Originally Posted by from the sidelines View Post
    Congratulations to Canadian pairs Purdy/Marinaro on the bronze medal. Why do Poulin/Servant always screw up at major competitions. They are a very good team but always succumb to stupid mistakes.
    Good thing they snatched the bronze medal instead of being 10 (switched with L/J of China) else the winner board would read by nations, i.e. 3 Chinese Pairs, then 3 Russian and 3 American.

    A big difference is that the Canadians didn't fall whereas L/J had 3 falls! In fact 6 out of 11 LPs incurred fall deductions.

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    Congrats to the Ladies Medalists

    Shelepen, Li, Agafanova. Looking forward to seeing the top 10 FS's on youtube. Interesting tidbit from the summaries: Ashley Cain was 7th in the FS but had the highest PCS, wouldn't have expected that!

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    Still 7th is a pretty good finish for a pair skater who was competing here as an alternate!

    Siraj was 3rd in the LP, but had too much ground to make up from her problems in the SP

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    American young Ladies did well, with the bronze by Yasmin Siraj and Ashley Cain at 7th place with the higest PCS, a head above the field together with Zijun Li. Winner Polina Shelpen is in her own league as far as the TES is concerned but her PCS is not outstanding at 5th. I guess the two with the big discrepancies should work on the weaker aspects of their skating.

    Congrats to the medalists and all who tried their best.

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    Ashley Cain looks like Kiira Korpi, skates like Kiira Korpi, and gets PCS like Kiira Korpi. Yay for her.
    If this girl can land her jumps, she'll be Laura Lepisto one day.

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