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    Quote Originally Posted by demarinis5 View Post
    WOW Mirai! Loved her SP.
    Ummm, I am not as impressed as you are. And is not because of what Mirai did, but rather Lori Nichol leaves me underwhelmed these days. From Lori, knowing what she is capable of, I am expecting great work. She doesn't capture the tempo changes in the music in the last part of the program, starting from the flying camel spin. The arrangement of the jumps was fine, but the footwork doesn't stand out as much as it should. I like the music and it could have been a great program choreographically, but it isn't.

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    Free Dance Result

    Pl. Name Nation TSS TES PCS SS TR PE CC IT Deduction StN.

    1 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 84.19 43.30 40.89 6.89 6.61 7.00 6.75 6.96 0.00 #14
    2 Nelli ZHIGANSHINA / Alexander GAZSI GER 82.63 43.51 39.12 6.71 6.36 6.57 6.64 6.39 0.00 #11
    3 Kharis RALPH / Asher HILL CAN 81.91 42.79 39.12 6.57 6.36 6.46 6.61 6.71 0.00 #10
    4 Cathy REED / Chris REED JPN 77.64 40.58 37.06 6.25 6.00 6.21 6.29 6.25 0.00 #12
    5 Isabella TOBIAS / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU 76.18 36.23 39.95 6.57 6.46 6.68 6.93 6.82 0.00 #13
    6 Anastasia OLSON / Jordan COWAN USA 73.58 39.49 35.09 5.86 5.64 5.89 5.93 6.07 1.00 #8
    7 Sara HURTADO / Adria DIAZ ESP 72.72 39.53 34.19 5.79 5.46 5.64 5.82 5.93 1.00 #6
    8 Tarrah HARVEY / Keith GAGNON CAN 70.86 37.56 33.30 5.75 5.21 5.71 5.46 5.82 0.00 #9
    9 Kira GEIL / Tobias EISENBAUER AUT 68.80 37.50 31.30 5.36 4.89 5.29 5.46 5.29 0.00 #7
    10 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR 63.17 34.65 28.52 4.96 4.61 4.79 4.96 4.50 0.00 #4
    11 Olesia KARMI / Max LINDHOLM FIN 62.80 36.36 26.44 4.32 4.29 4.39 4.64 4.50 0.00 #3
    12 Louise WALDEN / Owen EDWARDS GBR 62.62 32.66 29.96 5.07 4.82 5.00 5.04 5.14 0.00 #5
    13 Gabriela KUBOVA / Dmitri KISELEV CZE 61.14 32.80 28.34 4.68 4.54 4.86 5.00 4.68 0.00 #1
    14 Henna LINDHOLM / Ossi KANERVO FIN 60.21 34.72 25.49 4.64 3.89 4.46 4.21 4.21 0.00 #2

    Result

    FPl. Name Nation Points SD FD
    1 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 139.01 2 1
    2 Nelli ZHIGANSHINA / Alexander GAZSI GER 137.66 1 2
    3 Kharis RALPH / Asher HILL CAN 133.94 3 3
    4 Cathy REED / Chris REED JPN 125.54 5 4
    5 Isabella TOBIAS / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU 125.24 4 5
    6 Anastasia OLSON / Jordan COWAN USA 119.42 6 6
    7 Sara HURTADO / Adria DIAZ ESP 117.61 7 7
    8 Tarrah HARVEY / Keith GAGNON CAN 114.70 8 8
    9 Kira GEIL / Tobias EISENBAUER AUT 111.10 10 9
    10 Louise WALDEN / Owen EDWARDS GBR 106.45 9 12
    11 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR 104.28 11 10
    12 Gabriela KUBOVA / Dmitri KISELEV CZE 102.09 12 13
    13 Olesia KARMI / Max LINDHOLM FIN 98.41 14 11
    14 Henna LINDHOLM / Ossi KANERVO FIN 96.46 13 14

    Congratulations to the medalists, US, German & Canadian teams. Yey, Madi
    I hope, I hope, I hope to see their videos.

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    Overall, US have great outings for what they consider as the first senior international competition of the season. Two gold medals (ladies and ice dance) & two bronzes (men & even pairs )

    Good job, guys. I'm so proud of them.

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    Good going H/D! ..can't wait to see them ! Looks like R/H's tango might have tidied up OK ?

    Bummer for H/G .. but no deductions, so , back to the drawing board ?
    Last edited by colleen o'neill; 09-24-2011 at 10:06 AM.

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    Yes, I don't see H&G having an easy time catching R&H after this kind of season debut.

    However, they did one of these Senior B's and finished behind Arnold and Trojek at it last season--they need to rethink this philosophy of showing up not in perfect shape, maybe? Either don't go, or start training earlier.

    However, did at least H&G got their qualifying score for SC perhaps? I'm rather misty about what the number is???

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    I'm pretty sure (but not absolutely certain though) the qualifying minimum point is 115. It means H&G did not meat the minimum (114.70!).

    Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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    I surely hope that is not true

    Let it be 110...please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I surely hope that is not true

    Let it be 110...please.
    I believe that the score for dance is a 111. something....

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    Ice Dance minimum is 111.13....correct me if I am wrong, please.

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    I borrowed this from "haribobo" at FSU regarding the GP qualification discussions. Hope it's ok.

    "2.3 Minimum Score for Grand Prix events

    Each entrant to the Grand Prix six (6) events must meet the minimum score to be included in the entry or the alternate list.
    For the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating season 2011/12, the minimum scores are:
    • Men 168,60
    • Ladies 117,48
    • Pairs 130,71
    • Ice Dance 111,15"

    So it means the Canadian team is qualified for the GP... Please, let it be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARA View Post
    I borrowed this from "haribobo" at FSU regarding the GP qualification discussions. Hope it's ok.

    "2.3 Minimum Score for Grand Prix events

    Each entrant to the Grand Prix six (6) events must meet the minimum score to be included in the entry or the alternate list.
    For the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating season 2011/12, the minimum scores are:
    • Men 168,60
    • Ladies 117,48
    • Pairs 130,71
    • Ice Dance 111,15"

    So it means the Canadian team is qualified for the GP... Please, let it be so.
    Yes, Harvey/Gagnon have met the minimum score and so will have SC.

    However, Balde and DeSanctis both failed to meet the minimum score and therefore will not have spots at SC - Balde was only 3 points or so short...if they could get him into Finlandia somehow, perhaps he could qualify. I don't see it happening though and DeSanctis was over 10 points short - and I don't think there is anyone else, either Mens or Womens, who would/could qualify at this point.

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    Wow! First of all, congrats to Hubbell/Donohue! (Have to check out her blog again. So entertaining.) Can't wait to see how they do throughout the season.

    Great to see that Ralph/Hill had such a great start. Really good way to start the season.

    Now about Harvey/Gagnon, oof.... They are both lovely people who have been skating together for a long time. But I thought this already last year: they are no longer physically suited to each other. It's not that she is big. She's a beautiful, mature young woman and with lots of talent. She needs someone taller and bigger to skate with. He is very talented with a ton of personality, but needs someone the size of Marie-France Dubreil. It can't be that they weren't prepared. They have already competed in Lake Placid and Ottawa and BC. Except for BC, where I still think the marks were a little boosted across the board, their marks have been underwhelming. And perhaps the halo effect over BC right now is causing Skate Canada to ignore some of the downside of the skating while they are mesmerized by bright shiny things. Programs from BC generally are bright, modern, fast and with some cool moves. Music is usually Broadway, from movies, or something you would find in a show program. At first it was very refreshing after all the angst and melodrama of the past. And the teams skate very fast. But is it now simply a way to hide issues in basic technique? Does the skating style translate well internationally where judges might be looking for a more traditional skating style and don't care about the flash? It reminds me a little of an old ad campaign from Wendy's that was very popular. In examining a competitor's burgers, 2 old ladies agree, "yup, mighty nice bun, but where's the beef?!"

    So if Harvey/Gagnon can't compete at their GP, can Canada send someone else? Can Canada send a couple more teams to Finlandia and see how these teams do? Or maybe gather some teams from the middle pack that are interesting for a development camp, and choose 1 or 2 of those to go to Finlandia? The one that gets the highest points past the 115 mark goes to the GP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARA View Post
    For the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating season 2011/12, the minimum scores are:
    • Men 168,60
    • Ladies 117,48
    • Pairs 130,71
    • Ice Dance 111,15
    Well, that would mean that H/G qualify, as do Dubé/Wolfe in pairs, but Elladj Baldé (165.11) just missed the cutoff by 3 points :( and Adriana DeSanctis (105.34) can't be at Skate Canada International either... That's too bad; I really, really like Elladj and was hoping he could showcase his amazing long program at SCI this year!

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    [QUOTE=thumbyskates;581180]Yes, Harvey/Gagnon have met the minimum score and so will have SC.


    Excellent! That solves the "who else could we send" dilemma.

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    That's so sad about Elladj ! Dang ! ...absolutely no hope ?

    His FS was my favourite of the many ( too many) Michael Jackson programs I've seen. The way he moves is completely natural , not forced or overdone..I thought the program itself had maybe too many cuts in the music , but he moved fluidly from one to the next.

    I think he needs a coaching change ?

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