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Kostner skated to a Shostakovich Trio in her SP (it happens to be one of my favorite pieces of music)
I thought it would take someone with an acquired taste to appreciate it. You must have a musical ear.
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I thought it would take someone with an acquired taste to appreciate it. You must have a musical ear.
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I was shocked that Alissa won instead of Carolina, but then I saw that Carolina still won the FS. That was a really clean FS for Carolina. I wasn't that impressed with Alissa's error-marred skate, but it wasn't horrible. I'm happy that Viktoria H got a bronze medal because she's been a favourite of mine for awhile. I just wish she could have got it with a cleaner skate. And wow, Caroline Zhang really imploded.
The thing is, while this may be considered a meltdown, it also should be no surprise to anyone. Both this season and last, she has tended to consistently botch her jumps. While nerves certainly play a part, it's a technique issue. She just hasn't mastered the lutz, and her flip is very inconsistent.
Also, congratulations to Carolina Kostner for winning the LP. I wonder whether she should have scored higher in the SP as well.
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Kostner skated to a Shostakovich Trio in her SP (it happens to be one of my favorite pieces of music
I first came across that trio in a French film a few years ago and immediately fell for it. It's brilliant. I wonder if Carolina has a more musical ear than many skaters; her music choices tend to be interesting and often unusual, which is not common, especially among Nichol-choreographed skaters.
My one quibble with the SP is that she can do even more with the music in some sections. But it looks really good for this early in the season. I haven't yet seen the second group LPs so can't comment on the skating or the results.
I did see the first group, and I would like to say that Makarova and Joshi Helgesson should burn their LP costumes. Makarova needs a new program, period.
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That was the exact same thing I was thinking!!
Just watched the final flight. To me Carolina's yet again sophisticated performance stood out and I don't agree with the PCS 
All of Carolina's elements flowed beautifully, whereas Alissa's not so much. Carolina's transition's lower, really?? Did the judges see, for instance, how she entered her first triple loop?
I can't believe I'm wuzrobbing for Carolina who I used to think got overmarked many times!
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All of Carolina's elements flowed beautifully, whereas Alissa's not so much. Carolina's transition's lower, really?? Did the judges see, for instance, how she entered her first triple loop?I can't believe I'm wuzrobbing for Carolina who I used to think got overmarked many times!
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I m fine with the results cause the gap was really small. But when men try harder content and somehow mess it in comparisson to easier content that wins, there is a rush of Oh it is figure skating, not figure jumping. When ladies try harder stuff and mess it and still win, we call it she had a safe cushion because of difficulty. Honestly I was never a Costner fan except for some bright moments she had but both her programs are creative, her sp is really unique and she was flying in the lp with a music choice that i thought is difficult to skate to, either that or I miss Mao, but I havent seen such light skating with such exciting choreo lately. Alissa is beautiful to watch but puts me to sleep, she looks like calculating much and I dont see her posture gushing, especially in the Lp i got annoyed, when she prepares to jump she sets her arms and it is like she is in practice. It is like her jumps dont come out of the choreo. She is amazing for getting back this way since the Olympic season and somehow this is what sport is about, but i dont see how she is on the same level with Carolina (whenever she skates clean).
Kostner skated to a Shostakovich Trio in her SP (it happens to be one of my favorite pieces of music
Thanks for this info. I'd never heard of it but I really liked it!! Did Lori Nichol choreograph it (Wiki doesn't say)? Kudos to whoever explores outside the 'traditional' skating music. Traditional is beautiful, but how boring would it be if everyone dismissed anything 'different' as simply 'odd', especially when such dismissal stems from a lack of willingness/curiosity to appreciate/learn about/ be exposed to a wide range of beauty? I played the piano all through high school and all I cared about was choosing the 'bang!' pieces (Beethoven's Pathétique, Tempest, etc.) for recitals! Thanks partly to posters like you and skaters like Kostner, I appreciate different stuff too.
You might be right. This was always the case in old judging system.
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I totally agree with you! This is a big reason why skaters like Savchenko/Szolkowy, Abbott, Lambiel, Buttle, Kostner, Kozuka, Crone/Poirier, Savoie, just to name a few, are so special to me! I REALLY appreciate skaters who think and step outside of the box and give the audience members something unique to truly treasure. :yes:
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Exactly. Alissa's arms bother me too. She's overhyped IMO. That's what winning a few will do for you. Until another US lady can do better, she gets the America's sweetheart treatment.
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I love the nuances in Carolina's program. She has become one of my fave skaters since this years worlds. I love her regal demeanor and musicality. She has improved immensely through the years in this dept.
Alissa is the queen of spins! She is an incredible artist as well. This maybe her year!
Alissa is the queen of spins! She is an incredible artist as well. This maybe her year!
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After watching Carolina and Alissa I have to say that Carolina was robbed big time. And i'm usually not her biggest fan. USFSA was certainly at work ensuring that Alissa was set up to be the next "top lady" in skating. That freeskate usually would be desrve a medal. never mind gold. It is a beautiful program. Her speed is much improved and her elegance is unquestionable. But these are the qualities that Carolina is generally accepted as having too. Carolina's skate was almost clean, she too had a beautifully choreographed program and really performed it well. Evan Alissa's SP, was not perfectly clean so I don't see where she got that much of a lead from that portion of the competition. Just saying...if this was GRand Prix Paris the decision would have been different.
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Yay for the "mature" persevering Ladies. :yay:
Put Carolina in the Fine Wine category. :thumbsup: Kudos too to Alissa.
Hope that Caroline is encouraged by these champions.
Put Carolina in the Fine Wine category. :thumbsup: Kudos too to Alissa.
Hope that Caroline is encouraged by these champions.
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Didn't Alissa do a triple-triple?
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Alissa did a triple lutz, double toe in the short, and did a triple lutz, underrotated triple toe in the long.
