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    They won't get fined at all. They only lose the bonus money the ISU gives skaters for doing all three events; and of course any prize money they would have got at Skate Canada. His health is more important. They still can compete at TEB and get into the GPF provided he is healthy enough and by then he should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mousepotato View Post
    They won't get fined at all. They only lose the bonus money the ISU gives skaters for doing all three events; and of course any prize money they would have got at Skate Canada. His health is more important. They still can compete at TEB and get into the GPF provided he is healthy enough and by then he should be.
    Yes. They'll be fined 10% off the winnings of the 2 events that they do compete in. This is one of the stipulations of doing 3 events - Tessa and Scott even mentioned this was their reasoning for not doing a 3rd event...in the case of injury or medical withdrawal, the fine still applies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demarinis5 View Post
    ^^ I have not heard anything official but Fabian was battling Bronchitis at SA and he probably has not recovered yet.

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    they are just not being awarded for doing three competitions, splitting hairs maybe. They have one more chance to compete to get into the GPF, that is a chance teams didn't have last year. They should have no trouble getting into the final
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    No, Mouse, Thumby is correct, they will be fined 10% of their winnings from SA and TEB for NOT appearing in their third event. This is why V/M, S/S, and a few others decided against the three events. The fine is even in affect for withdrawals due to illness and/or injury (which is really stupid). The rules were linked in someone else's post further up.

    Bourzat must be in really rough shape as I know they said they signed up for 3 because they needed the training money

    ETA: sorry, it was mentioned in the SA thread here: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...ance-FD!/page6
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    I know it's safe to bet all my kittens on P. Chiddy...that's a given.

    As for the ladies, I really don't know how to call it. It's not like SA where there were really only two skaters who could legitimately win gold...there are a lot of contenders here and I don't know who to go with.

    My dream podium would be:

    1. Mirai Nagasu
    2. Akiko Suzuki
    3. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva

    I don't know though. If Mirai skates well, and she's fixed the technical content in her LP which was pretty light for her competition at Nebelhorn, she's got this one. If the jumps are there, so is everything else. Across the board, she's the most complete skater at this competition. People may point to Liza T, but Liza lacks the maturity and polish that Mirai has, not to mention lines, extension, spins and spirals (and if you don't think that stuff matters then you must not have watched Alissa beat Carolina this past weekend :sheesh. Liza is not as consistent as some people seem to think. I watched her all last season and she had her share of jump issues, so we'll have to see how she does on the senior level with this different kind of pressure. But if she does skate well, I'm sure she'll be on the podium.

    If both skate well, the edge will probably go to Mirai...or at least it should. PCS have been a really dicey area so we'll just have to see who the judges like.

    Akiko looked really strong at JO. Ashley's programs are pretty nice and if she skates well she should score well. It remains to be seen how Rachael will do given her new schedule and blah blah.

    The outcome of this one is much harder to predict than SA.

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    I like your podium, but if Ashley earned one of those medals I would be very happy. She needs to break out of the middle this season.

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    Ashley has a history of doing okay at the GP series though and snagging at least one medal. She needs something else - a gold or another trip to the GPF and most definitely a good showing a nationals to give her career a boost.

    I agree this one is very hard to predict for the ladies. There a lot of questions. Like, will the best version of Mirai show up or will sloppy Mirai show up? What kind of shape is Rachael in? How will Lisa fare against some skaters who are have a more mature style than her? I am excited for it. Especially to see how Mirai and Lisa do.

    With the men, I'm certainly excited to see Chan and Dai again but I also really hope Adam and Ross do well this season. I wonder if either of the two can have a break out season.
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    The Ladies are really hard to predict, any of them may step up or underperform. All in all, I think there are still fewer evil twins than early last season!

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    Someone help me parse this.....

    Should a seeded skater/couple not
    complete the third event for any reason, the equivalent of 20% of the total prize money, that the
    skater/couple has received in the first two events, must be reimbursed to the ISU or will be deducted from
    the next possible contribution of the ISU to the Member of the skater/couple concerned.
    1. My understanding is that this rule was created to promote skating at three events, and punish skaters that skate at two and then withdraw from their final one.

    2. Fabian is clearly sick. Reporters mentioned it without asking. Viewers noticed it. It's not something he's faking.

    3. The rule said "not complete the third event for any reason". Well, S/C was their SECOND event, not their third. So the rule, as written, seems to say that P/B won't be penalized.

    4. Will the ISU really be so boneheaded?

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    I noticed the ambiguity of interpretation per your 3rd point too as I read the rules, even though I'm not a lawyer.

    In rules concerning withdrawals from regular entries due to medical reasons, ISU spells out what kind of medical documents are acceptable. There is no such mention here regarding this particular category of withdrawals, affirming that no exception from penalty is made for seeded skaters withdrawing from the 3rd (extra) event for medical reasons. IOW, they are committed to 3 events comes what may.

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    I understand why they would have the penalty for withdrawing from the third event , if they're going to allow a 3rd event. If many skaters opted for 3 events ,and then simply found it too rigorous or decided that their first 2 events had already garnered them as many points as they could reasonably hope for ,the last couple of GP events could wind up with severely depleted fields .

    What I still can't see as a sensible decision is the idea to allow 3 events , then fill them from a reduced pool of participants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spun Silver View Post
    I like your podium, but if Ashley earned one of those medals I would be very happy. She needs to break out of the middle this season.
    I definitely agree. I really want Ashley to have her moment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_idealist View Post
    No worlds?! I wonder if his wife (Jenna McCorkell) will do the same thing, or keep going since she's a bit younger than him.
    Jenna's goal I would have thought would be to have a good performance at Europeans on home turf, she has never really done that well at world's apart from a good showing in 2010. I know she was dissapointed with Vancouver so she may stick around until Sochi, but my guess is she will probably retire with Kevin and start a family

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    I would like Cynthia to skate well, I wish she would take the triple lutz out of her SP its not consistent enough, I heard she has added the loop instead of her toe loop, not sure why - she usually got +3's on her toe loop?

    Love Akiko to win though I have a feeling with Ando out and who knows with Mao it could be her breakthrough season at last

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