Honestly, I'm just happy that neither team was nowhere near this year's World Series title.
Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue
Whether this program is the equal of D/W or not, THE SCORE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BECAUSE IT'S IN CANADA! Please stop creating some scandal or accusation that's not true.
Originally Posted by Spun Silver
I really dont think you can compare one of the all time greats like D/W with pretty much anyone anymore. That free dance will be what future generations look back on for years to come.
After all these years finally another BOLERO!
Are you just trying to be funny? You cant be serious...
Mrs. P makes a really good point. There are two really, really exciting races shaping up for this season. Obviously for gold between D/W and V/M. But also for bronze between P/B, the Shibs, W/P, and C/L so far. Also, it will be interesting to see how the Russian teams hold up and if they can maintain their current foothold, move up or lose any more ground. Given how long their programs have been out there, it's fairly disconcerting that R/T would suffer a music deduction so late in the process. Worse, their program was not well received, deduction or not, relative to a team who fell in a previous segment and that was only formed in the last few months. I'll be curious to see how I/K and B/S perform in the coming weeks. Stavisky was not keen on their programs as seen at the test skates according to an interview he gave a few weeks ago, particularly the SDs. I could see up to 6-7 teams realistically vying for bronze next March. That will be a lot of fun to watch.
I wonder if they will lose ground or set themselves up with large deficits after their SDs if they have not improved their overall composition. Latin dances really require authentic and very specific character more than other styles. From what I say exhibited at the test skates, there really was no latin feel to what they put out. That may be a cultural issue rather than an indication of their work ethic or intent. Just as some more classical dance styles have favored European teams in the past, this latin theme may slightly favor NA or western European teams just a tad. Their technical elements may be there, but their PCS will likely be hurt if the composition of the dances is not improved. So even if they have high quality FDs, they may be too far behind. We'll have to wait and see. It should be very interesting.
We are lucky to witness 2 such great teames at the same time than V/M and D/W.
I love them both, but prefer V/M because of the more poetic artistic ability.
This last WorldChamp. V/M has showed an epic, unusual performance which is one of the most memorable one, but couldn't win, because they couldn't quite get the judges' appreciation being the WorldChampionship their first competition of the year (and it was a tendency to create History with the first ever USA WCH in ice dance...)
Many of us has a feeling it would be somehow fair to get V/M crown back, and our joined feeling is that, with this FD it will not be possible (my very strict opinion).
Last year D/W won with their less impressive FD in the last couple of years but now their FD is a masterpiece.
V/M program simply doesn't let them to Show all of their bright, fantastic quality. That what annoyes us, because we want to see 2 gorgeous program, and the result must be decided by the quality of the performance not the quality of the program only.
Just prior to CoR in 2009, there was a report about the early mornings both Meryl and Charlie had, being students while being high level athletes. Charlie said that the way he motivated himself to get out of bed was by repeating "0.04" to himself (the amount they lost the bronze medal by in 2009, and perhaps the flukiest loss in bronze medal history, up until 2011 anyway). Clearly both had worked like mad over the summer and when I saw POTO at CoR, I was blown away. The vigour, the committment, the sheer chutzpah of the whole thing. I've mentioned before that I think Samson and Delilah was D/W's best FD and I don't think that I'm gonna change my mind any time soon - certainly not this year, but that was so thrilling an athletic spectacle that I couldn't help but applaud (putting aside my aforementioned feelings on the music). I think anyone underestimating their hunger or their work ethic is doing so at their own peril, and I'm confident that Tessa and Scott are the last people to do that.
If you asked me to bet right now, I'd bet on Davis/White. But what I don't feel is that the result is preordained or inevitable. I feel to do so would be dismissive of both teams as competitors and the feeling I have that the judges are probably really hoping one of them makes a mistake and makes their job easier. I think fans (except a few ubers on both sides) are hoping for the opposite.
Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue
Are you trying to be funny by not acknowledging a masterpiece? No program has garnered so much admiration since Kwan's Salome' and the hype would be even bigger if skating had the audience it once had. Maybe this program will start to bring people back to the sport.
Originally Posted by bellafurr
10-30-2011, 08:37 PM
Oh ok. Then dont worry so much about what Virtue and Moir are doing then>
10-30-2011, 08:41 PM
Funny, I thought Kwan's most signature piece was Lyra Angelica, the program she scored the most 6.0 with. Kwan's Salome, which led her to her first World title was probably her most controversial win. Then again, getting facts straight doesn't seem to be the issue here.
Originally Posted by blackswanphoto
10-30-2011, 08:48 PM
I dont think Lyra was her Signature piece. She had her best performance with it yes. But when not performed correctly it was a bit bland. Which is why unfortunately Tara snatched her wig at the Olympics. Salome' was more exciting, which is what D/W free dance is.
Originally Posted by wallylutz
10-30-2011, 09:04 PM
Repeating an idea over and over again won't make it become the truth
10-30-2011, 09:06 PM
awwwww... now THIS is ice dance... total argument on teams that haven't met each other yet in competition this season.
10-30-2011, 09:11 PM
And somehow dragging Ms. Kwan into it as well...or declared Mission Impossible 2 months before the competition.
Originally Posted by Tonichelle