haha actually a decent list, even the order (well other than the odd eye popping thing like Stojko higher than Yagudin), depending on your criteria. Much better than her dreadful womens list. Still some predictable heavy Canadian bias, although ironically I think Chan could have been higher.
Well, at least it's better than her ladies list.
I am shocked she ranked Toller ahead of Kurt. Actually, I'm shocked Dick is 1st and not Kurt...
I have to say, I have a lot fewer issues with this list. I would have found a way to work Robin Cousins into the list. Also, the super dominant Jenkins brothers. They get short shrift these days, but they were major technical innovators in the mold of Button.
Very professional article to use an argument of an athlete as arrogant that drives you crazy, makes it rather personal if you are a journalist, I guess Plushy didnt say bonjour to her.
Grafstrom should be on every top ten list.
Kurt should be higher... at least by one... I'd have him #1
I most disagree with Stojko being 5th, I wouldn't even have him on the list (I'd bump him below Petrenko). I'd probably have Yagudin over Browning too, and Plushenko right up there with them. And I wouldn't have Chan in the top 10 (yet).
When Plushenko first started competing and touring in North America he was shy and also was not confident about his English. This might have given some American journalists the impression that he was stand-offish.Originally Posted by seniorita
Very professional article to use an argument of an athlete as arrogant that drives you crazy, makes it rather personal if you are a journalist, I guess Plushy didnt say bonjour to her.
As opposed to Yagudin, who went out of his way to try to charm all the female reporters.
Really not so bad but still essentially a list with Canadian bias, but so much more thought out than her ladies list. I too feel Yagudin should be ahead of Elvis, who was amazing and such a feirce competitor.
he was cuter anywayWhen Plushenko first started competing and touring in North America he was shy and also was not confident about his English. This might have given some American journalists the impression that he was stand-offish.
As opposed to Yagudin, who went out of his way to try to charm all the female reporters.
This time PJ's list is not very different from my list...but where are Gillis Grafstrom and Karl Schaefer and Jackson Haines? I just need more than 10 skaters.
Chan did the highest level of skating ever by a man last season, especialy once he stopped skating half the program on his *** and utilizing/exploring his 5+ fall margin he has over the others. Nobody in history would have beaten Chan at Canadians, GP final, or Worlds. For that alone he has to be atleast top 10.
Me too.I would put Kurt and Alexei higher. hehehehe
It's a nice list! The only "meh" in this one is Elvis, who I do like, but wouldn't put in my Top 10. Most of the other guys would probably be on my list.
Edit: Was Evgeny shy?? I like shy boys...
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I see why she put Dick first in terms of skating history, but I'd have been tempted to put Kurt first or at least second. No explanation needed. The guy has rocked throughout his long and fabled career. His skating is so natural and smooth, and his footwork defies the laws of ice and gravity.
By and large, though, this is a list I can live with. As it happens, many of the greatest Canadian skaters are the greatest world skaters, especially Kurt, Orser, and Toller Cranston, so even if Kwong wanted to be chauvinistic and favor Canadian skaters, she wouldn't be quite so off-center as she was in her women's list.
I'd always put Curry ahead of Cranston, but they'd both be up there in my list. Both men were pillars of modern men's skating and made huge contributions to their sport, as amateurs and later on as pros. Each had a touring company, but Curry's was more innovative in terms of incorporating dance (and dance choreography by the likes of Lar Lubovich, Peter Martins, and Twyla Tharp) in skating. Like many of you, I'd put Yagudin ahead of Stojko for several reasons, including the fact that he was possibly the finest exemplar of Russian style in men's skating. He had it all: technique, artistry, enough charisma to set the rink on fire. I'm sorry there's no room for Robin Cousins or Daisuke Takahashi when the list is configured this way. I might be tempted to substitute Daisuke for Elvis because he's just such a standout for me.
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