Agreed.Originally Posted by merrywidow
Agreed.
No Lambiel, Kulik ,Takahashi, Petrenko on a list, wonder how many people on earth will agree to this list
Good point, I agree.
Stojko deserves to be on a list, but not sure what place.
None of those skaters merit a place on an all time top 10 list. Neither in terms of acheivements or contributions to the sport.
Yeah, I've torned between Stojko and Hamilton. Stojko deserved on there even though I don't really like him. Maybe we could take off Brian Orser and put Scott Hamilton there.
I agree with you.
I ve talked to him quite a few times by now to have my own opinion and I believe people cannot carry a 24h smile especially in the middle of competition with a camera on their face so if you go to him before a competition like a jumping monkey he would probably tell you off but I m always curious since I ve seen you have written it many items in various place, but since you dont say what I ll speculate he didnt say bonjour to you too.
And Jouby is a sweetheart too.
Last edited by seniorita; 11-09-2011 at 01:44 PM.
Except Alissa Czisny.
Who said so? Everyone apply different standards I guess.
Petrenko has two Oly medals and Chan none, Kulik has gold medal and Orser silver, Lambiel silver and Cranston bronze and so on, but I would have both Lambiel and Cranston on a list but not Button and Browning
My list, no order
Lambiel
Cranston
Plushenko
Yagudin
Takahashi
Stojko
Orser
Curry
Boitano
Petrenko
Serious LOL!!Except Alissa Czisny.
Based on a lot of the entrants on ladies and some here you would think PJ would have put Hamilton on because of his part in getting S/P the pairs gold! He did dominate from 1981 to 1984 and then when pros mattered he did very well with it.
Last edited by gmyers; 11-09-2011 at 03:28 PM.
I see this way, to kick Plushenko for someone is a doping. (no offend, just couldn't resist)I ve talked to him quite a few times by now to have my own opinion and I believe people cannot carry a 24h smile especially in the middle of competition with a camera on their face so if you go to him before a competition like a jumping monkey he would probably tell you off but I m always curious since I ve seen you have written it many items in various place, but since you dont say what I ll speculate he didnt say bonjour to you too.
And Jouby is a sweetheart too.
I am really surprise Plushenko even made this NA list.
Of course, this list has more Canadians on it - 4 to 3 for the ladies, but the Canadian men are so much better than the women that this feels less slanted.
has to be by regions of old -5 each
American Men
Dick Button
Hayes Jenkins
Scott Hamilton
Brian Boitano
Evan Lysacek
Europeans
John Curry
Robin Cousins
Stephane Lambiel
Jan Hoffman
Brian Joubert
Canada -hardest ranking
Kurt Browning
Toller Cranston
Brian Orser
Patrick Chan
Elvis
Jeff Buttle
Russia/USSR
Alexei Yagudin
Evgeny Plushenko
Ilia Kulik
Victor Petrenko
Alexander Abt
Asia
Daisuke Takahashi
Takahiko Kozuka
Nobinari Oda
Takeshi Honda
and Asia can claim Patrick, too. tied with takahashi. the best rivalry today!
I could do 20 but never just 10! too hard!
I'm only posting to say that if this was an official ISU list, or something along those lines, like in a highly respected encyclopedia of figure skating book about the history of the sport, et al, then I would say only a couple of those names listed would make the grade, period.
But since this isn't, rather a figure skating fan's own personal list, I see nothing wrong with her list. I actually enjoyed reading her list(s), and was rather amused that we both agree on Sarah Hughes, who in my mind had the best FS ever, bar none, man or woman. It was one for the ages, magical, a once-in-a-lifetme event wherein she skated the best she has ever skated in her life, something not only figure skaters, but all athletes can only dream about, to skate the best ever at the Olympics.
Now if I were to do a list, I would categorize it from A to D. Lol, kinda like what they have in Hollywood ~ there's the A-list, then everybody else.
And on my A-list would be the following:
Gillis Grafstrom -- holds the record for the most ever medals won at the Olympics (4 = 3 gold, 1 silver); most successful figure skater in Olympic history, 3-time World Champion, 3-time National Champion, inventor of the Grafstrom Pirouette and the Flying Sit Spin.
Evgeni Plushenko -- second only to Gillis Grafstrom for most medals ever won at the Olympics (3 = 1 gold, 2 silver); most successful Russian figure skater in history (man or woman), 3-time World Champion, 6-time European Champion, 8-time National Champion, first skater to land a 4/3/2 in competition, first skater to land a 4/3/3 in competition, has consistently landed over 100+ quads in competition, youngest male skater to receive a 6.0. And those are only some of his accomplishments, he's not done yet...
I'll stop for now, not enough time to list all the stupendous accomplishments of Ulrich, Karl, and Richard, whom also make my A-list, and that's it. Only 5. The rest are either on my B, C, or D list, depending on several circumstances, one being which event they medalled at, as the oldest of the four annual figure skating competitions is Europeans, which began in 1891, thus has far more prestige than the others. Next would be Worlds, which began in 1896 (btw Jr. Worlds began in 1976). After that the Winter Olympics, which began in 1908. And finally 4CC, which is the newest amongst them all (began in 1999), thus hasn't gained the prestige and respect of the others just yet.
Anyhow, my personal list takes into account factors such as I listed above, for what it's worth.
I would put Scott on the list. As much as I really like Patrick's skating, I would wait for him to finish his Olympic eligible career before I would put him on a list of all time greats.
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