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    Quote Originally Posted by skateflower View Post
    Why is this so shocking to the British commentator? S&S lost huge in their technical content with a botched lift, 2-ft th sal, doubled jumps...
    I think it's Nicky Slater commentating without Chris Howath, and Nicky's an ice dancer. Doesn't know that much about the technical side of the other disciplines.

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    doubled the 3T
    single the 2A
    problem with the 3Sal throw
    problem with lift

    They had so many mistakes. I was surprise they didn't win, actually. I thought it would be like Euro 2011 again where she completely missed a spin, and then stood around and did the hand fizz thing and shrugged and still placed above K/S.

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    1 Yuko KAVAGUTI / Alexander SMIRNOV (RUS) 177.51
    2 Narumi TAKAHASHI / Mervin TRAN (JPN) 172.09
    3 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Robin SZOLKOWY (GER) 171.68
    4 Stefania BERTON / Ondrej HOTAREK (ITA) 163.83
    5 Caydee DENNEY / John COUGHLIN (USA) 163.75
    6 Lubov ILIUSHECHKINA / Nodari MAISURADZE (RUS) 159.01
    7 Marissa CASTELLI / Simon SHNAPIR (USA) 149.02
    8 Natasha PURICH / Raymond SCHULTZ (CAN) 128.17

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadine View Post
    Ahhh, I miss the days of G&G and their correct technique, the right technique, the Russian technique. I recall when Sergei would throw Katia his feet never left the ice and his movement continued to flow, not stop, and most definitely he did not throw her like a sack of potatoes, which has been the case with pairs since the Russians stopped dominating.
    I disagree with you. The so-called Russian technique is ugly. I hate to see the man stay there motionless. I love the flow with male partner moving towards the female after throwing her out. The Russian technique only applies to small girls. The height and distance are not that great either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateflower View Post
    I disagree with you. The so-called Russian technique is ugly. I hate to see the man stay there motionless. I love the flow with male partner moving towards the female after throwing her out. The Russian technique only applies to small girls. The height and distance are not that great either.
    ...are you sure you've been watching the same G/G as I've been watching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateflower View Post
    I disagree with you. The so-called Russian technique is ugly. I hate to see the man stay there motionless. I love the flow with male partner moving towards the female after throwing her out. The Russian technique only applies to small girls. The height and distance are not that great either.
    'I love the flow with male partner moving towards the female after throwing her out.' - that IS the Russian technique

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    Congratulations to K/S!! Definitely an off night for Aliona and Robin.
    Silver medal for T/T they must be thrilled.

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    T/T's PCS are increasing event by event. By the end of the season, theirs should clear the 60 mark. The judges love this pair, mistakes and all.
    Girl T needs to learn how to land her jumps. I said last season, and I'm saying it again. We need to get Mervin Tran back to North America and represent either Canada or the US. We have a nice girl who can land her jump and look elegant, too. Her name is Caitlin. I don't see them going anywhere if girl T continue to make mistake in almost every SBS jump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evangeline View Post
    Delilah should fix the positions on that ending lift of Denney/Coughlin's ASAP, because ending the program with such an eyesore can only leave a bad impression on the judges.
    Maybe not...one judge gave them a +3 for that element?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlattFan View Post
    T/T's PCS are increasing event by event. By the end of the season, theirs should clear the 60 mark. The judges love this pair, mistakes and all.
    Girl T needs to learn how to land her jumps. I said last season, and I'm saying it again. We need to get Mervin Tran back to North America and represent either Canada or the US. We have a nice girl who can land her jump and look elegant, too. Her name is Caitlin. I don't see them going anywhere if girl T continue to make mistake in almost every SBS jump.
    Are you sure he will be able to lift Caitlin? I really dislike Girl T. Her jump/throw ability is awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateflower View Post
    Are you sure he will be able to lift Caitlin? I really dislike Girl T. Her jump/throw ability is awful.
    I thought Caitlin is tiny. 5ft tiny.
    Girl T and Boy T look great together. Their lifts, their transitions, their twist, and every hand movements are amazing. But she just can't land her jumps consistently enough. What's her success rate in landing the 3S and 3T? like 1 in 4?

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    Despite the mistakes, S&S produced their best program in my opinion. Unfortunately, I'm afraid V/T will likely beat them at worlds with those empty programs.

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    S/S were gifted in the PCS big time. They robbed Z/Z in 2008, robbed K/S in 2011.
    How on earth were they able to score higher than K/S here in Performance/Execution, Choreography, and Interpretation?
    S/S are often overrated and overmarked.

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    Oh boy, S/S were off from the start. They really seemed tired and out of sync with each other in the fp. I think the judges were kind of generous to them in the sp. S/S failed to seal the deal in the fp -- too bad. I still love them and their fp this year. I like their sp too, and hope they get the kinks out. If they are not at a high percentage with landing the throw 3-axel in practice, then they might want to rethink trying it. I hope their conditioning is not off, or something else nagging. Robin has seemed to have problems with doubling triples so far this season. Hope this is just early season working things out. Was it jet lag? Go back home S/S and get in condition and get those programs working more smoothly you quys!

    To the questioner re Aliona's hair: I think she has soft, flyaway hair that she has a hard time keeping under control, just my speculation.

    To those who were dissing S/S as a pair (in the sp thread), yes they are a true pair, edgy and different, but they complement each other beautifully. They are not your average pairs team.

    ETA: Give it a break Flattfan. S/S were fairly judged in that they were taken down for making mistakes. Yes, you betcha that S/S have overall better choreo, presentation and execution skills than K/S, even with mistakes. K/S have a better fp than sp this year, but they did not skate cleanly here either -- K/S botched their jump landings and they were skating soooo slooooow. I feel for K/S, but truthfully if S/S skate to their ability and K/S skate to theirs, S/S are in an entirely different league. Its just that you have to put your programs out there when it counts. This is early season GPF, and let's see how things shake-out come Worlds. If you don't like S/S, to each their own favorites, but how can you argue their flat out talent?
    Last edited by Art&Sport; 11-12-2011 at 02:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art&Sport View Post
    To those who were dissing S/S as a pair (in the sp thread), yes they are a true pair, edgy and different, but they complement each other beautifully. They are not your average pairs team.
    Nobody's ever said they're average. They are one of the top 3-4 team in the world. My problem with them is they always get huge PCS even with glaring mistakes. It's like the mistakes do not exist.
    Same with V/T. Their choreography should be in the 6s, not 8s.

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