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    I'd like to see Brian work with Kevin Reynolds!

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    Reading skating forums, I think most Canadian fans would want Brian Orser to take over Joanne Mcleod's brood of skaters!

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    Almost any coach would be preferable to Joanne McLeod. She helped wreck the careers of Sandhu and Mira Leung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I'd like to see Brian work with Kevin Reynolds!
    So would I!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Almost any coach would be preferable to Joanne McLeod. She helped wreck the careers of Sandhu and Mira Leung.
    She did a great job with Sandhu. It isn't her fault he didn't compete well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    She did a great job with Sandhu. It isn't her fault he didn't compete well.
    She also wasn't to blame for Mira. If I remember correctly, it was Mira and her mother who ruined that career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puchi View Post
    These are great news! Now I want to hear Mirai is leaving Frank Carrol. He may be a great coach, but it certainly isn't working for Mirai.
    I think Mirai just needs to stick with it and find her focus and her drive and I suspect that part of that is sticking it out with Frank C.

    People can correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that half the time these coaching changes never work for the skaters. In the case of Cynthia, it's probably a good idea because she has struggled for so long and really needs to get out of her rut. Same thing with Alissa when she finally left Julie Berlin after a decade. It's not so much a matter of those coaches being bad, I suspect, but just needing something new to get out of a rut. In Mirai's case, she was in a rut and went to Frank Carroll and ended up having a great 2009/2010 season. Last year she was injured and struggled to find motivation in a post Olympic year. She was hardly the only one. See Yuna and Rachael Flatt. I think Mirai needs to settle herself down and just get into the grind - Frank was good at motivating her for the Olympic year and I think he can do it again if Mirai just sticks with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    She did a great job with Sandhu. It isn't her fault he didn't compete well.
    Sandhu didn't compete well because he didn't train properly. He stopped when he made a mistake and quit skating so in competition, he fell apart when he made a mistake so yes, I hold McLeod responsible for many of Sandhu's poor training habits. She didn't teach him good work habits and tolerated his diva behaviour and let him get away with a lot of crap. Sandhu was the "star" talent who was going to put McLeod on the map internationally.

    Again, with Mira Leung and her mother, McLeod tolerated the mother's interference with her coaching.

    Coaches have to establish with their skaters what is exepcted of them in their training, how the coach wants them to work. Skaters who disiplay poor training habits should be corrected in the same way that bad technique is corrected, and for the same reason. MacLeod lets her skaters run the show.

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    McLeod has also had a habit of blaming the judges for poor PCS marks, which doesn't give skaters much incentive to improve.

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    The thing that always worried me most about MacLeod was her comments when she whined about low PCS marks , edge calls and UR calls. She has done this several times with her skaters.

    Those comments suggest an unwillingness to admit that there are problems to be fixed. You have to admit there is a problem first before you can fix it.

    She also overhypes her skaters way too much.

    I don't necessarily want all of her students to go to Orser ( though that would not be a bad idea) as long as they all leave her.

    I worry about Nam Nyugen's development since unfortunately he is with Joanne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymavy15 View Post
    Cousins skated pairs, so his height would have worked to his advantage (at times). I think that several of the pair skating men are taller than the average singles skaters, especially the russian and european teams.
    Cousins is the 1980 MEN'S Olympic Champion. I don't believe he skated pairs internationally. You must have confused him for someone else.

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    Article today about the move that interviewed Cynthia:

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...134356653.html

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