Canadians schedule change for CTV
Skate Canada announced a format change for Canadians last night on their website. Now the last group (1-6) of Ladies , Dance & Pairs skates on a separate big TV night of champions. Here is the schedule:
There was an article about it on the Skate Canada website last night but they have since taken it down!
However the schedule is still there.
Skate Canada has reposted the article today:
Just saw it and I say yuck. It won't be fair to the skaters skating earlier. And what if one of the skaters in the early group has a great free and moves up several spots even possibly to a medal. Does that mean these skaters will be chacked by CTV/TSN?
Addon: Finally saw the article and have some comments.
To compare this to golf is silly. Typically the tee-off order on the first 2 days ( before they cut the field down ) is completely random. The golfers who start early on the first day start late on the 2nd day ( and vice versa ). That is very much like the skate order for figures or multiple CDs. On the 3rd and 4th days tee-off order has the best golfers teeing off last. But there is no break in time between the early groups and the late groups.
The problem with having huge breaks of several hours between groups is that it is going to put pressure on the judges to give higher marks to the last group no matter how they skate.
Not wishing for this ( I want all skaters to do their best ) but if we have a situation where the final FP group is a splatfest and the 2nd last group skates better in the FP it will be major egg on Skate Canada's face.
Last edited by nadster; 11-18-2011 at 11:59 AM.
I also think that without a compulsory dance event the competition is pretty short to justify high all-event ticket prices. This adds an extra half day to the package.
This is absolutely ridiculous, and the decision should be reversed. This is not fair to the skaters. It should be one competiton at one time, not 2 competitions. It would seem the top placements then are predetermined? Are we back to "wait your turn" politics in skating? In dance, some skaters are really good at the SD, but not so good at the FD - and vice versa as well. Some skaters have a bad day on one day, but really bring it home the next - and vice versa. This is a crazy decision, and not in keeping with COP. There are only 3 flights in each discipline - not 6 or more flights. They should do the events all at once as one competition with one panel of judges at one time. That would be fair. In terms of television ratings, they can decide to show what they want on the main networks, either live or taped. I loved what CBC did by showing ALL the skaters from the last to the first on TV on Bold. The main networks showed the final flights and other key skates. Not everyone gets to go to Nationals, and there are lots of fans and supporters who like to watch their favourites put in personal bests, even if these skaters aren't going to finish in the top 5. And what about the audience? Are we saying that the skaters who finish 6th or lower aren't important? Don't bother buying tickets to those events? What about supporting athletes are they come through the system? This ranks up there with one of the worst decisions Skate Canada has made. They are not protecting the sport or the skaters. This is only about making it easy for CTV. I want CBC back.
how will tickets work for that day if I'm just buying singles and not an event package?
Spending too much time at the arena
As someone who watches every bit of coverage possible (streamed, TV, YouTube) - this doesn't work for me, because I want to see all of it, and, I know of/have watched and enjoy watching all of the skaters, not just the top skaters. I can also definitely agree with the points about the problem with split flights, etc, and the impact on the skaters.
As someone who has listened in on the conversations of people who have gotten more interested in figure skating due to mainstream, primetime stuff like Battle of the Blades, I'm seeing why they are doing this - they want to put the big names on, and the (hopefully) more impressive skates during the time when they may be able to hook more people into watching and enjoying the sport. Which can only be good. And live always has that additional "perception" of more exciting ... at least for me, but, that may just be my perception.
I don't think CTV has an option like CBC had with Bold - CBC has all of these random channels that they can use for alternative programming - CTV doesn't, I believe.
Is this the national championship for our sport, or a 'made for TV special'? It feels like we have really sold out. OK we have no sponsors, but maybe it's because we keep morphing to try and be all things to all people.
What's next? Only the top 6 from Challenge get to Canadians? The winner gets to skate with a hockey player in a follow up special? How about Batlle of the Blades Speedskating! with a champion skater joining a speed skating team. Speedy would love that!
Can we just get back to our pure sport?
~ Figure Skating Is My Passion ~
I am very upset that CTV is taking over from the CBC for all figure skating coverage. I loved the CBC coverage, plus the BOLD broadcast on the their web page is wonderful. It looks like there will be a two hour broadcast on Saturday on CTV and the rest will be on TSN. I can't believe Skate Canada would change to CTV for their coverage. Please bring back the CBC!!
when you all listen to the sultry tones of rod black all your disappointments about this new schedule change will be forgotten
In the US, IceNetwork shows everything live of US Nationals that is not going to be shown on NBC or UniversalSports. Also, IN will have the NBC/US portions on demand some time after the live showings.
I don't see why SkateBuzz can't negotiate something similar for Canadian Nationals. It's not as if the TV networks plan on doing reruns of a sport that is supposedly of so little interest to Canadian audiences. :sheesh:
You have to pay for IN or Universal Sport and from what I know, the services aren't always so great. SkateBuzz is free to all Canadians and I think it's not geoblocked either.
It's an odd arrangement in general, though. CBC has international events, CTV has events that are skated in Canada regardless of Nationals/international. Skatebuzz, like SF mentions, is free and Skate Canada likely has no interest in alienating a stream of money (CTV). If CTV's contract states that it gets all seniors, it does.. Skatebuzz can do nothing.
Not ALL figure skating coverage, just Skate Canada and Canadians. The Grand Prix events, 4CC and Worlds will still be on CBC.
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I'll be OK with it if they can get it right..but I absolutely DETEST the split in the actual events..and being left in limbo as to whether we'll get to see anything other than the last flights in 3 out of 4 disciplines for the free programs.. Yet the men's competition is all-in-one.
I think by now they might have come to a decision re livestreaming ,or if they're planning to sandwich those events in somehow, they could have made some announcements.
Right now , I say a pox on both their houses , CTV and Skate Canada ! I hope they realize this is a dismal failure with the fans, and shape up for the next time.
Last edited by colleen o'neill; 01-19-2012 at 03:50 PM.