11-19-2011, 03:02 PM
Not Chan's best skate ever, but I love this program and can't wait to see it performed more cleanly.
Wow. Now that was a meltdown from Oda. One of the worst I've ever seen. Poor guy.
Nan Song has a bright future if he can continue to improve.
It's too bad that Kevin Reynolds had to withdraw, but, honestly, I wasn't expecting much anyway. The only thing that used to save him was that he could consistently spin very, very quickly in the air, and thus complete the difficult jumps. But as soon as the jumps start to go wrong, you can see the inherent weaknesses in his basic skills. I find this to be a consistent problem with most of Joanne McLeod's skaters. Think Mira Leung. They are concentrated on the tricks, and it takes them to a certain level, but the fundamentals are never addressed to give them the basis to make it right to the top. I think skaters like Mira and Reynolds are examples of why it would pay in the end to lose placements for a season or two and go right back to rework basic technique.
11-19-2011, 03:11 PM
SkateFiguring took the violet pill
Eman Sandhu has artistry galore under Mcleod.
Kevin improved his skating and artisty greatly a season ago. Loved his ex program Somewhere Over The Rainbow. But last season was terrible for him, due to some hip injury to my knowledge, and his breakdown continues. It's heartbreaking.
I hope J10 bounces back from his injuries and picks up his skills. He has a very nice style.
11-19-2011, 03:56 PM
Skating is art, if you let it be.
Not necessarily. If Hanyu is 1st at Cup of Russia, Fernandez is 2nd (or 3rd with a higher tiebreaker score), and Abbott is at least 4th, Song does not go to the GPF.
Originally Posted by sorcerer
11-19-2011, 05:20 PM
Originally Posted by SkateFiguring
I quite agree with rain on this issue. I don't think that rain is talking artistry per se but basic skating skills and technique. The axel technique of many of Mcleod's students is greatly flawed as so many of them stalk their axel. I also note many of her students have poor ice coverage overall.
Originally Posted by rain
Sandhu had great musicality and lines ( mainly due to his ballet training before taking up skating ) but even he was slower across the ice than many other top men. Even Kurt Browning said that Sandhu had a technical problem with the axel which caused his inconsistency with the jump.
Thanks to working with Shae-Lynn Bourne , Kevin has better choreographed programs hence his improved artistry. But artistry can't be fully realised without strong basic skating skills and technique.
I hope that Nyugen Nam leaves Joanne. Otherwise he too could be doomed to a future like Kevin.
J10 thankfully works a lot with Kraatz on his skating skills. But Kraatz can't fix his jumps and J10 suffers from the bad Mcleod technique on jumps.
11-19-2011, 05:54 PM
Yes, this is exactly what I meant. I was talking about the basic speed and flow across the ice and the poor jump technique that seems to dog her students at a certain point in their careers.
Originally Posted by nadster
It's doubly sad because her students do tend to have great competitive spirit and mindset, as well as great work ethic and desire to get to the top. They are just allowed to continue with destructive habits that eventually prevent them from getting there.
Sandhu (and I was a fan and always hoped he'd get it together) was slow compared to the top guys, especially now. I think under COP as it is now he would find this to be a roadblock to success.
11-19-2011, 07:02 PM