11-19-2011, 01:19 PM
I doubt that Chan and Reynolds traveled together, as Reynolds trains in BC and Chan in Denver CO, USA.
11-19-2011, 01:28 PM
Rooting for the divas with Kwanford
Re: my previous comment on Patrick's small flying sit, I just took a look at his SC SP and it seems he just doesn't have a big one.
11-19-2011, 01:39 PM
leave no stone unturned
I only watched Oda and feel depressed, from the comments it seems like a dull competition. I ll look for Song's Lp on YT.
11-19-2011, 01:43 PM
IIRC jumps are also supposed to take off of a defined edge... backflips are done on a flat.
Originally Posted by Nadine
11-19-2011, 01:47 PM
congratulations to all medal winners.
patrick chan, nan son, michael brezina.
congrat to adam for coming in 3 in the free skate.
11-19-2011, 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by genki
Unfortunately, I was certain he would win today, regardless of how he skated. The new system works in such a way that the PCS marks can elevate anyone they choose, regardless of how poorly they execute the elements. "Transitions" are a favorite excuse for this.
11-19-2011, 03:00 PM
So can you or Genki explain and support who should have won, under the current scoring system if you don't mind? I don't suppose you have a new system completely worked out that would be all encompassing and fair.
Originally Posted by Dodhiyel
11-19-2011, 03:36 PM
I think that is what the complaints are all about. There isn't any risk.
Originally Posted by ILoveFigures
If you fall, you still win. What have you risked?
11-19-2011, 03:39 PM
Not long ago I noticed some PCS scores that showed much too high a divergence among the judges; for starters on improving the system, I suggest that judges not enjoy anonymity.
Originally Posted by SkateFiguring
As to Chan, I notice that he did a 3A in the SP, but not in the FS, whereas Song, who also executed a 4T and a 4T+3T, was brave enough to include a 3A in his FS. A male champion should be brave enough not to have to choose between attempting quad jumping and attempting the triple axel. He should be brave enough to try both in the same free programme. I cannot help but admire courage in an athlete. Song obviously has plenty of that.
11-19-2011, 03:40 PM
leave no stone unturned
11-19-2011, 03:47 PM
Oda's PCS was down to 5-6 range today. Do you guys believe Chan will get an Oda-like PCS score if he bombs like Oda did today? or will the judges will continue to hold him up?
11-19-2011, 03:48 PM
^ Artists must suffer for their art.
Originally Posted by Seniorita
Last edited by Mathman; 11-19-2011 at 03:53 PM.
11-19-2011, 03:49 PM
I was certain who would win today, and yes he did. And I'm happy with it. The difference between Chan's skating and others in this competition was like day and night, even a non-skater like me can clearly see it. Chan's performance was like a cut, polished diamond with some chips in it. For me, I can ignore those chips and see sparkles and brilliance here and there. I like "transitions". Many things going on--and I like it that way. Of course, I speak only for myself. I respect others who might have a different taste.
11-19-2011, 03:51 PM
That's a good argument. Very good argument.
Originally Posted by Mathman
11-19-2011, 03:57 PM
So Dodhiyel, your answer to my question is that Song should have won on Bravery? Is that the most impirtant and determining component? Are there other Program Components in your system? Do you admire Chan when he does 2 quads and a 3A in his LP?