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    Re: Alissa being cautious. It's also early in the season. I think there is a lot of pressure on her this year as she is the No. 1 USA. When she was No. 1 USA in 2009 she crumbled badly with bad finishes at 4CC and Worlds. Then following that with a 10th place finish at the following year's nationals.

    This time around she finished in the top 5 and I wouldn't be surprised if she was anxious of having to prove that last year was not a fluke. Esp. since there are plenty of other skaters who can usurp her.

    And I'm sure the win at SA had an * next to it for her....

    That said, I think Alissa can feel good that she handed down a clean skate today. That will help with her confidence.

    I'm hoping come Nationals Alissa will be in tip-top shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadine View Post
    Not surprised Alissa won the free, the judges know beautiful balletic skating when they see it ~ carriage, position, posture, plie, et al, impeccable.
    Nadine, what is "beautiful" about Czisny's painfully long jump setups? The whole program consists mainly of her stalking jumps -- pathetically tiny jumps that barely leave the air and as a result are landed quite awkwardly.

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    I'm pretty sure the Grand Prix Final will be Elizaveta, Carolina, Akiko, Alissa, Mao, and Adelina. I don't think there's anyone else even on the verge of making it.. It'll definitely be an exciting six!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketry View Post
    http://www.sportlemon.tv/v-2/12/100/v-330080.html

    this stream is working for me in the us
    thanks so much- it worked great!

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    She will be 15 in two - three weeks, better prepare her a cake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nadine View Post
    Not surprised Alissa won the free, the judges know beautiful balletic skating when they see it ~ carriage, position, posture, plie, et al, impeccable.
    yes but this is not a ballroom.

    * and I disagree about posture. Or I see another skater. I think Wagner has more natural arms and straight back shoulders for example.
    Last edited by seniorita; 11-19-2011 at 02:19 PM.

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    Half of Czisny's jumps looked underrotated and she GOT NO DOWNGRADE AT ALL ON PAPER AND EVEN + GOE???

    That is ridiculous.

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    I am proud of alissa, to bad her short program did her in. The only thing is it is obvious when she becomes super nervous. She drops some of the choreography and prep for the jumps really early. She had no falls this whole competition. Believe she qualified for the final again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriabina View Post
    Nadine, what is "beautiful" about Czisny's painfully long jump setups? The whole program consists mainly of her stalking jumps -- pathetically tiny jumps that barely leave the air and as a result are landed quite awkwardly.
    I find it beautiful, too- though I realize opinions may vary. I like the control, I love her posture. I like the simplicity.

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    Protocols are up

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    Congratulations to Elizavetah this young lady is going places, and to Caro and Alissa. Throughly enjoyed these ladies today. Sometimes I don't care about the jump layout, popped jumps or doubles, Alissa and Caro imo bring beauty to the ice and today I did not care about the points, I just enjoyed their skating. Also loved Murakami's program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    Re: Alissa being cautious. It's also early in the season. I think there is a lot of pressure on her this year as she is the No. 1 USA. When she was No. 1 USA in 2009 she crumbled badly with bad finishes at 4CC and Worlds. Then following that with a 10th place finish at the following year's nationals.
    Yes, I don't doubt she is very nervous and under lots of pressure. But in competitive figure skating, the skaters should be judged on their skate regardless of extraneous issues affecting their skating, no?

    I don't mean to bash Czisny but I'm just really disappointed in how her skating has evolved. And I don't think her coaches look particularly inspiring or stimulating. Look at what they did to poor Jeremy Abbott's jumps, which used to be quite big, and now are tiny a la Czisny's. I'm guessing they must advise their pupils to jump smaller so that they can land their jumps more consistently?

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    Protocals.

    Alissa - NO UR, no edge calls! No -GOE. I'm sure some of that would be up for debate.
    Liza - Same (no calls; all postive GOE); she did lose points on her spins. (Level 2)
    Carolina- Negative GOE on the 2F, as expected. Level 4 step sequence (nice!)
    Kanako - edge call on the Lutz, level 2 step, everything else OK
    Viktoria - edge call on her 2Z, UR 3F, negative GOE on 2Z, 3F, 3S.
    Mae BErnice - edge call on the flip, level 2 spin and step.
    Yretha - negative GOE on the 3Z an 3S she fell on, level 2 steps.
    Sonia - all level 3 non jump elements--negative goe on 3F.
    Lena - level one spin, level 2 step + spin. negative GOE on the 3T and 2A-2T-2L.

    Breakdown coming!

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    Not a single -GOE for Elizaveta and Alissa.. I thought the judges were lenient with UR's.. Alissa and Kanako both looked like they were close on a bunch of jumps..

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    Quote Originally Posted by reynycpr View Post
    Protocols are up
    I've been interesting to ask you if you need to download protocols to see. I guess it didn't need last season and have to every competitions this season.

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    Not good that a 14 year old can win 2 GP competitions right out of the box like this. Says a lot about the other skaters i think.
    I think it says more about how talented this 14 year old kid is!

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