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    Irina feature on Cup of Russia coverage

    Did you all see the feature on Irina Slutskaya which aired Sunday along with the Cup of Russia. I know we had a thread on this a while back, but even so I had not realized how serious, even life-threatening, her health problems were and still are. Now she has some kind of mysterious disease of the blood which the doctors believe was brought on by stress. They are projecting a recovery time of 6 months to a year. As for returning to competiton, right now they will be content just to make sure that the pain in her joints will subside enough that she can walk and move about normally.

    Irina, always upbeat, talked about the two months she spent in a hospital bed with inflamation around her heart. She joked that she read all sorts of things on the Internet about herself -- "I broke my leg, I broke my neck, my heart stopped."

    Irina quote: "I hope some people like me and will never forget me."

    Yes, we do, and no, we won't.

    Mathman

    PS. The background music for this feature was the end titles to Shawshank Redemption -- Hope, against all odds. Why doesn't anyone skate to that great music?

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    Mathman-
    I did see the feature on Irina, it brought tears to my eyes. I also didn't realize how sick she was and is. Stress can do all sorts of awful things to your body. I hope she recovers fully and is back skating again.

    We like you Irina and will not forget you.

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    Mathman, yes I saw it, and I was very glad they showed it.

    It's very sad what she has already gone through, and will in the future. Even the fact that she had to stay in a hospital room for two months, it'd be very hard on everyone, but to an athlete at her level it must've been excruciating. But I'm happy that at least now she's been diagnosed, and that she didn't lose her spirit. A few weeks ago I read an interesting study about the influence people's attitude has on their recovery (we always knew that it mattered, just not how much). The outcome of the study was somewhat unscientific, as it claimed that if you don't believe that you'll get better, and fight for it, no drugs/medical treatment will be able to help you. I'm sure there must be some desperation under the brave front she put on, but we already know she's a fighter.

    We're with you, Irina. Don't you worry about us forgetting you.

    Btw, here's a link to the thread at Irina's board people can post a message to her (the messages will be delivered to her):
    http://pub178.ezboard.com/firinaslut...cID=2128.topic

    Hope it's OK if I quote the first post with an explanation: "We'll be delivering these to Irina every week or so up till Russian Nationals in January so this thread will remain open and you can post as many messages as you want, as often as you want. It'll be easier for us to print them off from here for delivery rather than going to the separate forums."
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    Wow, I had no idea Irina was so sick and that fluff piece and interview with her made me cry. She is such a sweetheart and I wish for her only good things in her life and a full recovery from this illness. She is missed in skating for sure. Get well soon Irina!

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    Re: Irina feature on Cup of Russia coverage

    Originally posted by Mathman
    [B] Now she has some kind of mysterious disease of the blood which the doctors believe was brought on by stress. They are projecting a recovery time of 6 months to a year. As for returning to competiton, right now they will be content just to make sure that the pain in her joints will subside enough that she can walk and move about normally.
    I love Irina and wish her well, I hope she will win worlds in 2005 in her hometown!! But taking care of her health and her mother is the most important thing.

    I thought they said she has vasculitis

    http://www.hamline.edu/lupus/articles/vasculitis.html

    Several things can happen to an inflamed blood vessel. If it is a small vessel, it may bread and produce tiny areas of bleeding in the tissue. These areas will appear as small red or purple dots on the skin
    They showed a close up of her skin with small red/ purplish areas.
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    {{{{{IRINA}}}}}

    I hope she gets well soon. The important thing is her health, not another World title. If its meant to be, then great, if its not, its not.

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    Sending Irina good healthy vibes!!!!

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    Irina...............

    How sad. Irina has many fans in the U.S. including me. Who can resist that bubbly personality and smile that just lights up her face. I've always enjoyed Irina's skating but it's her personality that I find so appealing.

    We won't forget you, Irina. Put all that positive energy that you displayed in skating into your recovery.

    Dizzy

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    I looked up vasculitis, and found the site for the Johns Hopkins Vasculitis Center. I figured this was a reputable place to start.

    According to the site under What is Vasculitis?/Causes

    "The causes of most vasculitides are currently unknown. It is clear, however, that the immune system plays a critical role in the tissue damage caused by vasculitis. The immune system, normally a protective organ of the body, becomes “hyperactive” in vasculitis because of some unknown stimulus, leading to inflammation within the body’s tissues. Inflammation in blood vessel walls leads to narrowing of the vessels. The resulting inadequate blood supply to a particular tissue or organ results in damage. "

    I also looked up "Types of Vasculitis," and there is one called "Churg/Strauss Syndrome," which is related to asthma. While "[t]he typical patient with CSS is a middle aged individual with a history of new-onset or newly-worsened asthma, " there's nothing that precludes a younger person from getting it. Also, there are a couple of other types that are tied to the respiratory system, and one in particular, "Takayasu’s Arteritis," which strikes young women and is tied to other heart ailments, although not the one Slutskaya described in her interview. Most forms of vasculitis affect the heart and organs, including kidneys.

    Here's the link to list of "Types of Vasculitis."

    One of the reasons I looked this up was because the team doctor who was interviewed attributed Slutskaya's illness to stress. While stress is linked to autoimmune disease and certainly to exascerbating it, I was really annoyed that he focused on this, especially when Slutskaya spent months in the hospital with an incomplete diagnosis. I don't think for an instant that if Plushenko, Shubin, or Timchenko had Vasculitis, a team doctor would go on TV and attribute the cause to stress.

    But he must be following the lead of Piseev, who, according to a translation on FSU called Volchkova a "mommy's girl" and Sokolova out-of-shape. Girls have so many problems.

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    Irina's condition

    Thanks for the post Hockeyfan228. Interesting about Vasculitis......I wonder if perhaps this condition is hereditary. Doesn't Irina's mother have kidney failure. I wonder if the two conditions are related?

    Dizzy

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    I have Autoimmune Vasculitis. It is a frustrating disease to diagnose, treat, and to live with. The autoimmune response can be triggered by the stress of acute or chronic illness or emotional stress. Women of childbearing age are more suseptible and about 75% of patients with autoimmune disorders are women. The American Autoimmune Related Disorders Association website is a good place to learn more.

    http://www.aarda.org/

    I feel uncomfortable speculating about anyone's health problems especially in a public forum. That in itself can be stress producing.

    Piel

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    I had a rare form of it when I was 5. It was a reaction to Penicilian(sp). I spent 5 days hooked up to an IV, but Im fine now. I guess I just got lucky.

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    vasculitis

    Is this genetic, or is it something brought on by the stress? I remember Tanja Szewczenko had to stop skating because of some similar blood disorder...

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    From AARDA website:

    What causes autoimmunity?
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    The immune system normally can distinguish \"self\" from \"non-self.\" Some lymphocytes are capable of reacting against self, resulting in an autoimmune reaction. Ordinarily these lymphocytes are suppressed. Autoimmunity occurs naturally in everyone to some degree; and in most people, it does not result in diseases. Autoimmune diseases occur when there is some interruption of the usual control process, allowing lymphocytes to avoid suppression, or when there is an alteration in some body tissue so that it is no longer recognized as \"self\" and is thus attacked. The exact mechanisms causing these changes are not completely understood; but bacteria, viruses, toxins, and some drugs may play a role in triggering an autoimmune process in someone who already has a genetic (inherited) predisposition to develop such a disorder. It is theorized that the inflammation initiated by these agents, toxic or infectious, somehow provokes in the body a \"sensitization\" (autoimmune reaction) in the involved tissues.


    IIRC Tanja had Epstein Barr virus. It is the virus that causes mononucleosis. Some people have chronic EBV.
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    The autoimmune response can be triggered by the stress of acute or chronic illness or emotional stress. Women of childbearing age are more suseptible and about 75% of patients with autoimmune disorders are women.
    Piel- this is so true. I also have a autoimmune disease which caused my thryoid to malfuntion and a host of other things. Autoimmune deseases are hard to diagnose and treat and a lot of doctors do not want to take the time to find out what is best for you.

    I hope Irina has the best care she can get. Getting better depends on it.

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