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Thread: Yuzuru Hanyu: 2012-13 Season

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    Quote Originally Posted by sampaguita View Post
    You mean his ankle sprain? First of all, before we can translate anything, we need the source material. If anyone can give us that, we will do our best to translate it.
    S/he probably refers to the injury above his right eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zydeco88 View Post
    Yuzu never mentioned anything about the injury. Fans got the information from one of the Japanese color commentators during Fuji TV 4CC broadcast and from a Nikkan Sports article (which I sometimes consider as a tabloid newspaper). The summary of what's written there was already posted a few pages back. There have been some fans who over-dramatize the severity of his injury and even associate it with his lackluster performance in the free (ridiculous, I must say), but it looks to me that it is just a minor injury (or else he wouldn't have had a wonderful time @the banquet, fooling around with the other teenage boys). And he doesn't seem to be bothered by it in the slightest.
    I don’t think the fans are over-dramatizing. If you show his picture to an ophthalmologist s/he’ll tell you that with that kind of injury it’s dangerous to do jumps and spins. My friend who reads Japanese said Yuzru bleeded so much, he couldn’t sleep well and had to apply ice compress at night. Well, I don’t read Japanese so I tried to see if I can find something informative here, but I see a bunch of translation about someone else’s age but not much about Yuzru’s physical condition.

    I’m not a longtime fan of Yuzru, but I also know that he has never mentioned his injury at any competitions. Like at 2011 GPF he had an ankle sprain and at 2012 GPF he had a stomach bug, which affected his performance, but he himself did not mention them either. Plus, he always has fun and would not let his injury affect him at the banquets. Have you seen his photos at 2011 GPF and 2012 Worlds banquets? He always has a lot of fun despite injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakeside View Post
    Come on, if you guys care about Yuzru and speak Japanese so well, then can you please translate to us how’s Yuzru’s injury? Looks quite serious to me. I wish he’ll fully recover by the Worlds. I think that’s more important than someone else’s age.
    Quote Originally Posted by zydeco88 View Post
    Yuzu never mentioned anything about the injury. Fans got the information from one of the Japanese color commentators during Fuji TV 4CC broadcast and from a Nikkan Sports article (which I sometimes consider as a tabloid newspaper). The summary of what's written there was already posted a few pages back. There have been some fans who over-dramatize the severity of his injury and even associate it with his lackluster performance in the free (ridiculous, I must say), but it looks to me that it is just a minor injury (or else he wouldn't have had a wonderful time @the banquet, fooling around with the other teenage boys). And he doesn't seem to be bothered by it in the slightest.
    It's hard to tell how serious Yuzu's injury is, I mean above his right eye. Even he seriously injured his right ankle during 2012 WC, he never mentioned it throughout the competition and still managed to gave good performance at EX & had fun with other skaters during rehearsal.
    As fans we may never know since he doesn't like talking about injuries and showing his weakness, no matter it's affected his performance or not. I think the injury is more serious than how it's looked and reported but hardly seems to have a long term impact. Hope he'll get better soon and be more careful next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakeside View Post
    My friend who reads Japanese said Yuzru bleeded so much, he couldn’t sleep well and had to apply ice compress at night.
    Really? I thought he had a minor accident with the door right before the FS event. Was he supposed to take a nap after that? Does you reading-Japanese friend knows something that no one else knows? Could you share the link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakeside View Post
    My friend who reads Japanese said Yuzru bleeded so much, he couldn’t sleep well and had to apply ice compress at night.
    The question is whether your friend's sources are reliable. I haven't come across a single credible source (such as Yomiuri or Mainichi Shinbun) reporting about the injury. Instead, I got Nikkan Sports and Friday (pretty much a gossip magazine) which have notorious reputations for disseminating questionable, exaggerated and, more often than not, false news, giving accounts about his injury. And that just puts me off. I guess we'll never know about the truth unless it comes directly from Yuzu himself. If he is indeed suffering from it, I hope he gets well soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakeside View Post
    Come on, if you guys care about Yuzru and speak Japanese so well, then can you please translate to us how’s Yuzru’s injury? Looks quite serious to me. I wish he’ll fully recover by the Worlds. I think that’s more important than someone else’s age.
    Quote Originally Posted by lakeside View Post
    I don’t think the fans are over-dramatizing. If you show his picture to an ophthalmologist s/he’ll tell you that with that kind of injury it’s dangerous to do jumps and spins. My friend who reads Japanese said Yuzru bleeded so much, he couldn’t sleep well and had to apply ice compress at night. Well, I don’t read Japanese so I tried to see if I can find something informative here, but I see a bunch of translation about someone else’s age but not much about Yuzru’s physical condition.
    A few pages back there were posts on the strange band-aid and swollen eye from unofficial sources. English speaking fans who do not understand Japanese are depending on generous and kind Japanese speaking fans for translations and other updates (special thanks to everyone's hard work!!!!).

    And when it comes to rumors and non-major-media sources, not every Japanese fan reads every tabloid / twitter / social media / message board post. But if a question or a public link is posted, maybe someone else can jump in to clarify. Any chance on persuading your Japanese reading friend to post here?

    Thank you sampaguita for clarifying Yuzuru's biography quote!
    Last edited by jjane45; 02-15-2013 at 01:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by let’s talk View Post
    Really? I thought he had a minor accident with the door right before the FS event.
    Are you sure it’s that minor? He bleeded a lot. Well, I hope you’re right. Do you have any source that it’s so minor?

    Quote Originally Posted by lakeside View Post
    My friend who reads Japanese said Yuzru bleeded so much, he couldn’t sleep well and had to apply ice compress at night.
    Quote Originally Posted by let’s talk View Post
    Was he supposed to take a nap after that?
    Where does “taking a nap” come from? If you can read Japanese, then you should know that Yuzru could not sleep well the night after the LP and had to apply ice compress. That was not about taking a nap between the injury and the LP. People don’t “take a nap” at night, btw.

    Quote Originally Posted by zydeco88 View Post
    I guess we'll never know about the truth unless it comes directly from Yuzu himself. If he is indeed suffering from it, I hope he gets well soon.
    Then we probably will never know about it because Yuzru does not like to talk about his injury. I agree with you that I also hope he gets well soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by jjane45 View Post
    A few pages back there were posts on the strange band-aid and swollen eye from unofficial sources. English speaking fans who do not understand Japanese are depending on generous and kind Japanese speaking fans for translations and other updates (special thanks to everyone's hard work!!!!).

    And when it comes to rumors and non-major-media sources, not every Japanese fan reads every tabloid / twitter / social media / message board post. But if a question or a public link is posted, maybe someone else can jump in to clarify. Any chance on persuading your Japanese reading friend to post here?

    Thank you sampaguita for clarifying Yuzuru's biography quote!
    I’ve always thought I don’t know much about figure skating news in foreign countries, so I come to GS for more info. Never thought that it would be the other way around and I would be expected to contribute any news about Japanese skaters... Not everyone is interested to post here, and not everyone has time to do it, which is why I come to this board to discuss figure skating news with people who are intrested in the discussion. I think your suggestion is good. If Japanese speaking fans here can post some tabloid/twitter links etc., then we can gain more insight into it.

    Moreover, my original post #1085 was asking those posters who discuss too much on someone else’s age, which has nothing to do with Yuzru or this thread, to please get back on topic. And I used his injury for example. Maybe some people are not interested in discussing Yuzru’s injury, but at least discuss something about Yuzru Hanyu in this thread. There are many other threads where people can discuss about other skaters.
    Last edited by lakeside; 02-15-2013 at 01:36 PM.

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    Really? I thought he had a minor accident with the door right before the FS event. Was he supposed to take a nap after that? Does you reading-Japanese friend knows something that no one else knows? Could you share the link?
    Quote Originally Posted by zydeco88 View Post
    The question is whether your friend's sources are reliable. I haven't come across a single credible source (such as Yomiuri or Mainichi Shinbun) reporting about the injury. Instead, I got Nikkan Sports and Friday (pretty much a gossip magazine) which have notorious reputations for disseminating questionable, exaggerated and, more often than not, false news, giving accounts about his injury. And that just puts me off. I guess we'll never know about the truth unless it comes directly from Yuzu himself. If he is indeed suffering from it, I hope he gets well soon.
    Maybe this could be a source?
    http://p.twpl.jp/show/orig/BZwfT

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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    Really? I thought he had a minor accident with the door right before the FS event. Was he supposed to take a nap after that? Does you reading-Japanese friend knows something that no one else knows? Could you share the link?
    I really don't understand why this person suddenly talked about "a nap"....

    Tommmy: Thanks for the link!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommmy View Post
    Maybe this could be a source?
    http://p.twpl.jp/show/orig/BZwfT
    Thanks, Tommmy! This is exactly the one we were looking for. I did some research and apparently the article comes from Chunichi Sports. So, now at least we've got sources from two non-major-newspapers. I'll just put the links here for reference:
    Nikkan Sports: jjane45 provided the summary of what's written there a few pages back.
    Chunichi Sports: where it's mentioned he spent the night lying around in bed with a cold compress applied to the swollen area. But ultimately, it reported that he was fine and emphasized that it didn't develop into any serious injury.

    As for Friday, basically a bunch of irrelevant stories. Not worth reading.
    Last edited by zydeco88; 02-15-2013 at 09:46 PM.

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    Thank you, Tommmy! I haven't read this article.
    It also said that he had a packed lunch bought at a convenience store.
    You deserve a better meal, Yuzuru!! (food in convenience stores in Japan is actually good though)

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    J-Sports Post-SP Interview - Yuzuru Hanyu

    Source (07:27 - 08:30): YT

    - You weren't able to put up a perfect short program but still managed to come out on top. Looking back, how do you feel about it?
    Everyone wasn't able to put up their best performance. Frankly, I'm not really too concerned about the placements after the short, whether it's first or second. Honestly speaking, I personally find that my performance this time wasn't up to scratch. And I still feel that (the judges) were too generous with my scores. I'd like to sustain this disappointment and focus on tomorrow.

    - Regarding the (mistake on the) Lutz, was it due to the the quality of the ice or its conditions?
    It was entirely my own mistake. Really, I have to be able to jump under any kinds of circumstances. And there's the fact that I wasn't able to keep the focus until the end. Anyway, I'd like to keep my focus and end everything on a high note tomorrow.
    At any rate, I'm really disappointed today. I'd like to overcome this disappointment, pull myself together for tomorrow and nail everything without losing my concentration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakeside View Post
    If you can read Japanese, then you should know that Yuzru could not sleep well the night after the LP and had to apply ice compress.
    This statement doesn't make any sense. Ranting about people's reading ability and knowledge from such reading without actually providing the source to read.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommmy View Post
    Maybe this could be a source?
    http://p.twpl.jp/show/orig/BZwfT
    Thanks for the link. I assume it's a local Aichi newspaper. I am not surprised that major newspapers didn't focus much on this injury. It would make Yuzu look weak considering that some athletes actually win competions with way more serious injuries, like skating with a ruined disk in the spinal.
    Quote Originally Posted by giulia95 View Post
    Well. Thank for the link too. If for example Javi lost Euros, Orser would be saying exactly the same text, just changed the names only. Very generic talk with no skater's individuality, just like his coaching approch .


    Whe will Orser get over Yuna? Three years have paassed, he still finds the reasons to bring her in each interview, even in 4CC-2013 Men stuff. Poor man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    Whe will Orser get over Yuna? Three years have paassed, he still finds the reasons to bring her in each interview, even in 4CC-2013 Men stuff. Poor man.
    Yuna was one of Orser's first students (if not THE first student). They had really good rapport -- you could see that in documentaries, kiss and cry, etc. Yuna has grown so much under Orser, and with Yuna, Orser finally got the gold medal that he had long yearned for. You never forget your first, and you never forget your best. Yuna was both.

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    Misha has uploaded a video montage of the 4CC Pre-Gala Practice.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqMrzAku66g

    It mainly focuses on Misha himself, Dai and Yuzu. Seems that they had a lot of fun.

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