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    It was my pleasure, giulia! I wish I had done a better translating job, but fortunately others were there to fill the gaps.

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    thank you so much for your fantastic translation!!
    Certainly I hope his canadian team will understand him better , which probably (and synthetically) means to try to close the cosmic distance existing between “Hello I love you” and “Hana ni nare”..
    I hate his Canadian team for forcing him to mature so rapidly. Orser himself said that has to come naturally, but I think they're rushing him. They want him to become "one of the men", without thinking about what it is that makes him so special -- his youth and his passion. I think that by choosing a different gala program for NHK and Nationals (both of which were held in Japan) and a different encore in Nationals (he performed Romeo and Juliet, instead of his SP), he was sending a message, perhaps unintentionally. I think he knows that they're trying to change him into something he's not.

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    Wonderful job on translating this long video, thank you sampaguita!!

    Quote Originally Posted by sampaguita View Post
    I think that by choosing a different gala program for NHK and Nationals (both of which were held in Japan) and a different encore in Nationals (he performed Romeo and Juliet, instead of his SP), he was sending a message, perhaps unintentionally. I think he knows that they're trying to change him into something he's not.
    Interesting point. Although I think it's nice of him to pick a popular Japanese song for competitions in Japan (he did perform Hello I Love You too at the ice shows following Nats) and some variety for encore is good.

    I just hope he and Orser communicates effectively, as Yuzuru is known to say "yes" too often: language barrier and respect toward authority. And how I want to be a fly on the rink wall (or mirror?) when they discuss costume choices...

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    I came across this video of 15-year old Hanyu; his reaction to Daisuke's performance is so cute!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X2Qoo1OlsQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by sampaguita View Post
    I posted this in a minor thread, so sorry for double posting. But anyway -- I uploaded subs for the NHK documentary on Yuzuru Hanyu. Two other Youtube users have kindly filled in the gaps and corrected the mistakes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5djBbHdVY9g

    Any more comments/corrections are welcome! I am currently working on translating a shorter interview, and I hope you wouldn't mind if I post the Youtube links here, as well.
    Thank you very much for your amazing work, sampaguita!! I appreciate it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sampaguita View Post
    I hate his Canadian team for forcing him to mature so rapidly. Orser himself said that has to come naturally, but I think they're rushing him. They want him to become "one of the men", without thinking about what it is that makes him so special -- his youth and his passion. I think that by choosing a different gala program for NHK and Nationals (both of which were held in Japan) and a different encore in Nationals (he performed Romeo and Juliet, instead of his SP), he was sending a message, perhaps unintentionally. I think he knows that they're trying to change him into something he's not.
    Hi Sampaguita ! I know what you mean, but I don’t think the canadian team will be able to change Yuzuru that much, because his personality is too strong and the kid is more mature than what they thought . He has already demonstrated to be able to decide on his own, taking responsability and facing the consequence of his choices.

    This is the reason why I highly doubt “Hana nina re” Ex and expecially R&J encore were an unintentional message to his team at JN.


    I hope the canadian team has already found a better way to interact with the kid , we will see next week at 4CC hopefully..

    As Jjane 45 perfectly said, I would like to be a fly on the rink wall too (and not for costume choices only)!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chloepoco View Post
    I came across this video of 15-year old Hanyu; his reaction to Daisuke's performance is so cute!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X2Qoo1OlsQ
    This was so funny! Loved Nanami's reaction as well, lol! Thanks for sharing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjane45 View Post
    he did perform Hello I Love You too at the ice shows following Nats)
    . It was in Stars on Ice, i.e. in Kurt's shows (two in Osaka). Of course he performed the EX that Kurt did for him, it would be rude not to. The moment he was "alone" on the following days, he performed "Hana nina re" in Nagoya Festival, skated rather well but was clearly out of breath at the end. Then on the next day at JSC he skated SP and fell on all jumps passes, according to twitter. Anyway, it will be broadcasted on Feb 3, so we'll be able to see. One thing is for sure- he can't keep a few shows straight due to too much physical demand form him. And no one in his Canadian team seems to care.

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    Then maybe he should go back to Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    One thing is for sure- he can't keep a few shows straight due to too much physical demand form him. And no one in his Canadian team seems to care.
    Hmmm. Hearing about the show schedule in the first half of January I thought it must be brutal. It's not "just" skating the shows, I bet there were lots of other obligations and activities including travel that stressed him out. Plus he was coming off a series of elite competitions week after week and badly needed a break. It's hard to tell what was Orser's team planning for him during this period. Do you have reports on it?

    On the other hand, I think staying in Canada enables him to train in relative peace and avoid the ever growing media hype. Cricket club has much better resources overall than his old rink, and it has been a very exciting season for Yuzuru. Best of luck at 4CC!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjane45 View Post
    Although I think it's nice of him to pick a popular Japanese song for competitions in Japan (he did perform Hello I Love You too at the ice shows following Nats) and some variety for encore is good.
    Well, some skaters do different encores. Either they do their SP or their FS. But to do your FS from the past season, choreographed by your former coach? I think that's saying something.

    Like jjane, I believe Yuzuru can train better in Toronto, not just because of the facilities, but also because there's not a lot of media there. However, since the 4CC will be held in Osaka, I can understand why he wants to stay in Japan for the meantime.

    As for Yuzuru skating in too many shows -- he's been doing this a long time, starting from the time when the Japan earthquake struck. His rink was damaged, and he had to skate in shows so he can practice. I guess the habit stuck with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjane45 View Post
    It's hard to tell what was Orser's team planning for him during this period. Do you have reports on it?
    Actually I think he kinda mess up some shows for no particular reason.I remember some skating fans laughed about his poor performance back in 2010 summer ice shows,they claimed he use the ice show for parctice. Anyway,I get used to that.
    I heard wilson is rearranging the choregraphy of Notre Dame de Paris.Hope we gonna see better version of free skate at 4CC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjane45 View Post
    On the other hand, I think staying in Canada enables him to train in relative peace and avoid the ever growing media hype.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sampaguita View Post
    It was my pleasure, giulia! I wish I had done a better translating job, but fortunately others were there to fill the gaps.

    I hate his Canadian team for forcing him to mature so rapidly. Orser himself said that has to come naturally, but I think they're rushing him. They want him to become "one of the men", without thinking about what it is that makes him so special -- his youth and his passion. I think that by choosing a different gala program for NHK and Nationals (both of which were held in Japan) and a different encore in Nationals (he performed Romeo and Juliet, instead of his SP), he was sending a message, perhaps unintentionally. I think he knows that they're trying to change him into something he's not.
    I totally agree with you. I have been saying this since saw his programs this year, esp the short program. I don't want him to become another Cookie Cutter Monster (jumps). He has something really special, don't ruin it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjane45 View Post
    It's hard to tell what was Orser's team planning for him during this period. Do you have reports on it
    Well, apparently doing 4 shows in 5 days is too much for him, but as Yuzu said himself, he had so much fun during those shows in early Jan, and it is really something that relaxed him mentally from those intense competitions he just came off, so I wouldn't mind his falls in shows, at least he did perfectly fine for the first 3 shows and tried the hardest elements of the night by doing short program for the last one (JSC).

    As for Orser's plan, well, Orser mentioned in an early interview last summer about wanting Yuzu to do fewer shows in the future which I totally agree, so maybe we won't see as much Yuzu in the coming summer shows.

    For his program, I love his SP this season and the " hello I love you" Ex number. It'd be good if they are polishing the FS, but the technical elements he is doing for the FS is totally level-up, so I wouldn't mind too much if the FS is not as appealing as last season, remember the last time he did a level-up of his FS? That's the LP for season 2010-2011, which is no near as good as the Romeo LP as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjane45 View Post
    Hearing about the show schedule in the first half of January I thought it must be brutal.
    No, it's quite normal for skaters in Japan to have this show schedule. All top skaters, including Kanako who is the same age as Yuzu, skated the same shows plus they went to Tokyo to have SOI shows there as well. In PIW lead skaters skate 8-10 shows for 4-5 days, i.e. 2 shows a day. It's normal here. Just their coaches know how to adjust their bodies to this routine and that is all.
    Do you have reports on it?
    It was never annouced to my knowledge. Yuzu originally wasn't scheduled in any Jan shows. Later, when he didn't come back to Canada after NHK, he was added to the cast.
    Quote Originally Posted by sampaguita View Post
    However, since the 4CC will be held in Osaka, I can understand why he wants to stay in Japan for the meantime.
    Are you sure? I think he went to Canada after SOI shows in early Jan and now is training there. Elene twittered pics of gifts that he brought for her. If your information is correct and he didn't go to Canada, it means he is coachless from NHK for like 9-10 weeks? It's beyond any reasonable ground (and Orser's paycheck).

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