Vote Yuzu’s numbers in BS Japan’s ex program in September
BS Japan TV takes place an event for Japan Open. People can vote their favorite ice show numbers among 50 selected ones. The host will broadcast the numbers on top ranking. (It doesn’t mention how many numbers they will broadcast at last.)
Yuzu has two numbers among the list –
(#23) 2011 Romeo & Juliet and
(#46) 2008 Amazonic 死の舞踏
Event page: http://www.bs-j.co.jp/figure2014/
Well, let’s vote for Yuzu! Here is a brief instruction to vote:
* Click the red button of "投票する" (which means vote)
* Tick the No. 23 and 46
* Click the white button (投票する)
* Click the button of “送信する” (which means submit)
BTW, since I was looking at previous protocols I found something interesting. His SP layout usually doesn't change compared to his FS layout. I actually thought NDP & R&Jv2 has a similar layout except with the order of the quads but when I reviewed the scorecards the 3 jump was actually 3Lz+2T+2T. He did it at GPF, Nationals, 4CC & Worlds. Findlandia's FS layout was also different than the GP series, it has 2 3Lz combinations instead of the 2 3A combinations. It seems to me that Team BOrser uses Senior B competitions to gauge the riskiness of the layout so I his new FS may still change layout. As BOrser said before, Yuzu never skates the same program twice, there will always be variances no matter how indistinguishable it is.
So he has done a 2Lo at the end of combination (granted, it was 7 years ago), interesting.BTW, since I was looking at previous protocols I found something interesting. His SP layout usually doesn't change compared to his FS layout. I actually thought NDP & R&Jv2 has a similar layout except with the order of the quads but when I reviewed the scorecards the 3 jump was actually 3Lz+2T+2T. He did it at GPF, Nationals, 4CC & Worlds. Findlandia's FS layout was also different than the GP series, it has 2 3Lz combinations instead of the 2 3A combinations.
I think SP layouts change much less because they have much tighter restrictions on what solo jumps/combinations are allowed, maybe as a carryover from 6.0 when the SP used to be the "technical program". LPs aren't called the free programs for nothing (although, with Zayak rules and whatnot how free is it really lol) I think Chan helped popularize the __+1Lo+3S jump in recent years.
EDIT: Thank you echotpe for the poll, I voted!
I can't remember what happened in 2012 Finlandia- 2 3Lz combos you say? I should go watch it...later(I still haven't watched either Finlandia SP). That's interesting though, and certainly likely that BOrser (and Yuzu) uses early competitions to strategize/work things out.
Yuzu certainly seemed to learn a lot from the GP events. I think your right about that
Question: why did the 3S at olys get completely discounted and not just get 0.8 for a sequence? He didn't zayak afterall... is it because the 3S counted as a separate jumping pass? therefore he had too many jumping passes? if so, why did they cut the 3S and not the 3Lz is there something in the rules about that? All the commentators noticed the stumble, though Johnny seemed to think Yuzu had saved it (probably thought he'd get some points for it)
Yuzu's breaking the mould with the two jump passes and 3A in second half in the SP; and apparently leading the way in it: I wonder how Joshua will do with it this season.
Yes he did, although when Denis Ten & Adam Rippon also tried it during that same season (2011-2012), it was underrotated.
In a jump considered as a sequence, the jump(s) before it become a sequence are the only one given points. That's what can I make out of the protocols so if anyone knows better feel free to correct or add info. I haven't really read the technical guidelines word for word.
Ex. 4T+3A as a seq in the first half (4T+SEQ in protocol) = 8.24 (80% of 4T)
Yuzu's Olympic FS: 3Lz+1Lo+SEQ= 5.72 (3Lz+1Lo x 1.1 x 80%)
Max Aaron WC2014 FS: 3A+SEQ= 7.48 (3A x 1.1 x 80%)
Guess which other Japanese figure skating star had a great axel-1Lo-3S combination!!
I'm sure many coaches/skaters took notice of how Hanyu's axels were significant in his victories last season. (I guess it must help that Farris says that Hanyu's one of his favourite skaters. And they're skating at both CoC and NHK!)
Re: Finlandia 2013 . I am sure he was planning 3A-3T, but he had bad landing on 3A with hand down , that's why he had to put somewhere else combination
This blogger says she could not find this in ISU's rule book, that is, in English. (I think it should be somewhere though.)
・ジャンプコンビネーション：着氷した足でそのまま次のジャンプを跳ぶ2連続または3連続ジャンプ、もしく は1つ目のジャンプの後にハーフループを挟んだ3連続ジャンプ。基礎点は跳んだそれぞれのジャンプの合計。 （ただし、ハーフループはシングルループの基礎点をもらえる。）
・ジャンプシークエンス：ジャンプのリズムを保ったままホップや表外ジャンプ（基礎点のないジャンプ）でつ ないだ連続ジャンプ。ステップやターンでつないではいけない。コンビネーションの基礎点はそれぞれのジャン プの合計なのに対し、シークエンスはそれぞれのジャンプのうち、もっとも基礎点の高いジャンプ2つの基礎点 の合計に0.8を掛けた数字が基礎点となる。
ジャンプコンビネーションは着氷の足でそのまま次のジャンプを跳ぶか、ハーフループを挟んですぐに次のジャ ンプを跳ぶ3連続ジャンプでなければいけません。が、羽生選手はハーフループの後、すぐに3つ目のジャンプ を跳べませんでした。
It is difficult for me to translate the whole instantly. Could anyone give a try, please?
The conclusion is, for a sequence, two jumps of the highest marks x 0.8 is the point the skater can usually get. (He could have received 3Lz+3S x 0.8 in this case.) And also, the sequence needs a certain jumping rhythm to proceed to the next jump. But, Yuzuru's sequence was without a proper rhythm in connecting to 3S, and in that case, the jump after that is omitted. So, he could get 3Lz+1Lo x 0.8.
Protocol of Sochi LP:
Protocol of GPF:
Here is the corresponding sentence from the rulebook (The 2012-2013 version I found from the wikipedia entry).
According to his olympic FS protocol, he got 3Lz+1Lo+Seq in the second half of the program. So the base value is (6.0 + 0.5) * 0.8 * 1.1 = 5.72Fall/step out or touch down with free foot with weight transfer after a jump plus another jump
If a skater falls or steps out on a jump and immediately after that executes another jump, the element does not remain a jump combination and will be called as follows:
Short Program: “First Jump + Combo”; the continuation will be ignored by the Technical Panel.
Free Skating: “First Jump + Sequence” (or “First Jump + Second Jump + Sequence” if the definition of a sequence is still fulfilled). The same applies to a jump combination of 3 jumps.
I found this :
Page 18, Rule 353 Determination and publication of results
1. Basic Principles of Calculation:
h) In Single and Pair Skating:
i) Jump combinations are evaluated as one unit by adding the base values of the jumps included and applying the GOE with the numerical value of the most difficult jump.
ii) Jump sequences are evaluated as one unit by adding the base values of the two highest value jumps, multiplying the result by 0.8 and after that applying the GOE with the numerical value of the most difficult jump. The factored base value of the jump sequence will be rounded to two decimal places.
After all, what I have got is;
But as it is a failed combination jump, what you referred is applied, I think.
One more: If he hadn't stumbled, he would have gotten the full credit of 3Lz+1Lo+3S as a 3-jump combination, then the base value would be (6.0+0.5+4.2) * 1.1 = 11.77. This is what he got at GPF.
Voted, this appeared 投票ありがとうございました。