Yuzuru Hanyu

[jjane45]

May be you feel comfortable watching an insanely thin and pale kid crying in the K&C, and they were not tears of joy unfortunately, I surely don’t...

Not quite sure what do you mean?

[zydeco88]

I don't think it affected his performance that much. It was just a minor accident. I think he was just under too much pressure and couldn't pull himself together over the disappointment of having popped his 4S, the jump that he'd landed consistently during official practices. I noticed he looked over his shoulder everytime he was about to go into the Lutzes, as if he was making sure not to run out of space. I wonder what had happened? Didn't think he had done this in the previous competitions.

[giulia95]

Not quite sure what do you mean?

I watched the FS till the very end . When Yuzu lowered his head he was in tears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyKRaSnMrVs

[Kalina]

I noticed he looked over his shoulder everytime he was about to go into the Lutzes, as if he was making sure not to run out of space. I wonder what had happened? Didn't think he had done this in the previous competitions.

I don't think it's related, I've seen him do that before. He used to do it all the time in last season's FS, before doing his first 3Lz.

[zydeco88]

I don't think it's related, I've seen him do that before. He used to do it all the time in last season's FS, before doing his first 3Lz.

Sorry for not making it clear. I mean this season. I don't recall him having done that, at least not at Japanese Nats, NHK Trophy and GPF if my memory serves me right. Hope he improves on the accuracy of his 3Lutzes again before Worlds.

[giulia95]

Sorry for not making it clear. I mean this season. I don't recall him having done that, at least not at Japanese Nats, NHK Trophy and GPF if my memory serves me right. Hope he improves on the accuracy of his 3Lutzes again before Worlds.

just another Hanyu's progress under Orser...

[zydeco88]

http://mainichi.jp/sports/news/20130...50081000c.html
A brief summary of what he said in the interview: "I hope to amend the mistakes I've had here in the next competition. I'm glad that this was not Worlds Championships. Failing on my 4S attempt took a toll on my concentration. But I haven't lost my confidence yet (going into Worlds)."
He must've been very disappointed with his 4S failed attempt. I guess it sort of served as a confidence booster for him, having landed it cleanly and consistently during practices. Such a pity. Good luck and do your best at the next competition, Yuzu!

[merleice]

Thanks for the summary! Pity about the errors at this competition, but here's hoping for two clean programmes with a perfect 4S at Worlds. His 4S is so beautiful when he nails it

Now to wait for the gala, hopefully Yuzu will perform Hana ni nare :D

[FTnoona]

just another Hanyu's progress under Orser...

He's had trouble in the past with the lutz, rotating it crooked in the air and popping it from time to time - '10 NHK SP, '11 4CC FS, '12 Worlds SP. With the added tech difficulty and concentration of the 4S attempts, he might be too tired to actually pull of the last lutz.

Progress can go forwards and backwards, and I think the fact that he is still lipping is something to worry about more than his occasional failed lutz and it is getting called more often this season - that's potential +1, +2 GOE that he's losing. Even with the wrong edge, his flip is a beautiful jump, especially with the entrance that he takes into.

I think that he should switch the 4S for a 4T. Sure his bv is going to drop, but his 4T is more consistent and the GOE that he gets from that will probably make up for the lack of a 4S and the easier triple that he'll do to max his jumping passes.

zydeco88 thanks for the summary. Good for him for thinking positively that it was indeed a good thing that this happened at 4CC and not at worlds.

[jjane45]

I think that he should switch the 4S for a 4T. Sure his bv is going to drop, but his 4T is more consistent and the GOE that he gets from that will probably make up for the lack of a 4S and the easier triple that he'll do to max his jumping passes.

I guess this is an option! OTOH, it took him some time to get the 4T solid in competition, and we see that he has nice 4S in practices - maybe 4S just needs some more competitive mileage. He has time, just no injuries please.

[sampaguita]

I think that he should switch the 4S for a 4T. Sure his bv is going to drop, but his 4T is more consistent and the GOE that he gets from that will probably make up for the lack of a 4S and the easier triple that he'll do to max his jumping passes.

Is he allowed to do two solo 4T's? I've never seen any skater do two identical solo jumps in the freeskate.

[FTnoona]

Is he allowed to do two solo 4T's? I've never seen any skater do two identical solo jumps in the freeskate.

Sorry for not making it clear. he would have to do it in a combo b/c he would lose points on two solo 4Ts and if he kept all three of his combos he'd do too many combos and one wouldn't count. He'd lose his 3Lz combo and replace it with a 3S. That's probably gonna take 5ish points off his bv, but he will probably have a better chance at completing a program with two quad toes.

However, Yuzu doesn't seem like someone to give up and I think he's determined to land that 4S

[yude]

Did he say something like "no more 4CC silver in the future"?

Yes, he said exactly what you said! He said he wanted to get a different color of medal next time

[ser22]

I've read that changed Yuzu skate shoes 4CC before. It may be true?

[Elsa G]

He's had trouble in the past with the lutz, rotating it crooked in the air and popping it from time to time - '10 NHK SP, '11 4CC FS, '12 Worlds SP. With the added tech difficulty and concentration of the 4S attempts, he might be too tired to actually pull of the last lutz.

Actually he did not make a mistake on 3Lz in 2010 NHk SP,unless you consider an negative GOE -0.30 is a mistake too.
His mistakes on 3Lz in senior event:
2011 FC FS:1Lz+2T

2011 NT FS:1Lz

2011 東北・北海道ブロック FS：1Lz+2T；3Lz<

2011 CoC FS：3Lz+SEQ（Fall）

2012 WC FS：1Lz