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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommmy View Post
    Hanyu visited a shrine to pray for good luck (I guess).

    So I think he's not a Christian

    http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9264/52739224.jpg
    It's not unusual for some Japanese Christians to get blessings from Shinto-Buddhist temples. A lot of Japanese don't identify themselves Shinto but continue perform Shinto rituals. After World War II and decades of state sanctioned religion, Shintoism in Japan slowly became a part of Japanese culture and divorced from religious affiliation.

    It's similar to how some Christian Koreans converts continue to celebrate Chuseok, a festival of ancestor worship, or Indian Christians take part in certain Hindu festivals. Still, Hanyu may do it just for good luck. You won't believe how popular Christian imagery on accessories is in Asia.

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    Anyone knows how heavy Hanyu is? Based on ISU skater bio, Hanyu is 17 years old, 170 cm tall. Coincidentally, according to the newest official statistics published by Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology (文部科学省), the average height for a 17-year-old boy in Japan is 170.7 cm (about the same as Hanyu's height) and the average weight is 63.1 kg, with a standard deviation (SD) of 10.58 kg. That is to say, as long as Hanyu weighs 52.52 kg (i.e, 115.79 lb) or more is considered within the norm. Unless he weighs less than 115.79lb, I would not call him skinny at all. Now here comes the big question: How much does he weigh?
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    Hanyu was listed as 169 cm the season he won junior worlds, he looks at least a few cm taller than that now. I would guess he's around 5'8" (173 cm). Oda's olympic bio said he weighed like 124 pounds or something, and he is only 164 cm and also thin, so Hanyu is probably at least 120 pounds (54.5 kg). I'm not sure Kozuka is really 170 cm though, sometimes ISU bios are inflated. Patrick Chan is listed as 173 cm but he's clearly shorter than Fernandez who is listed as the same height, and looked shorter than Takahito Mura in pictures from 4CC who is listed as only 169 cm, so i tend to think his listing is inflated (he looks like 5'6" or 5'7" to me). Hanyu might be 170 cm but if he is Kozuka is likely only 168 cm. He is very thin but I bet he weighs more than 115 pounds.

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    I would say he is on the skinnier side, but not far away the norm.

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    As a Catholic Christian, I personally get offended by non Orthodox or non Catholics using crosses as amulets or crossing themselves as in "it can't hurt, who knows." It bothers me to see this, just the way Madonna has used crosses as fashion pieces while she and Nicky Minaj will do atrocious things onstage for attention.No talent, as if they had voices, they'd stand there and sing, not hope to shock people. That is very offensive to millions. But I I hope people realize that these kinds of 'good luck' things don't work (nor do jinxes) and that it is offensive to devout orthodox/catholics when someone does this with no understanding of what it means. The sign of the cross is sacrosanctt to many, not to be used lightly. IMHO. No offense to those who do not understand the meaning of the sign of the cross, and the faithful use it as a sign of belief in Christ, reverence and for protection against evil. Much more can be said, but elaboration here would be inappropriate. Yuna Kim is a practicing Catholic (I believe) so it is not inappropriate.

    As for his weight, he looks healthy, and is not a large guy, so it's hard to keep weight on when exercising at that level as a teenager for 6 hours a day. (guessing at how much total training he does.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateluvr View Post
    As a Catholic Christian, I personally get offended by non Orthodox or non Catholics using crosses as amulets or crossing themselves as in "it can't hurt, who knows."
    Catholic wear crucifixes. Protestants wear crosses. I beileve according to your logics I should get offended too when I see swastika on any map in Japan. Guess why I don't. Because Nazi don't have the monopoly on swastika. The same goes about crosses and Christians.

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    Why would maps of Japan have swatikas on them? What is the historical meaning of the swastika before the Nazis c0-opted it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    Catholic wear crucifixes. Protestants wear crosses.
    I agree, Catholics don't really have teh monopoly on crosses... I mean if we want to get really technical, it's a Roman form of execution... (this coming from a very conservative southern baptist, take it for what you will lol)

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    Hitler adopted the swastika symbol, he didn't create it. In Japan, a swastika on a map indicates the location of a Buddhist temple.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

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    Yuzuru has more than a catholic Cross on his neck
    he has many amulets, pendants and good luck charms

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    Hanyu just needs his skating, not any charms, as they don't work. Catholics of course have the crucifix, as historically it is about remembering the crucifixtion of the Lamb and the redemption. Protestants use crosses as they focus historically on the resurrection, rather than the suffering. We have a huge disagreement re the eucharist as well. I personally, and know many people I will simply state, that are very offended by the use of crosses by "artists" like Madonna who are simply trying to shock. Since religious discussions are OT, I will end there.

    I am now reading about swastika. And after what the symbol came to represent, I can see many people being offended by its misuse. If it is on a map as a logistical symbol, that is not offensive. It was co-opted and people should be offended deeply forever at what the Nazi party under Hitler did with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateluvr View Post
    Hanyu just needs his skating, not any charms, as they don't work.
    Who's to say charms work or don't? If Hanyu feels that a good luck charm helps him, mentally, physically or otherwise, I say go for it.

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    Well. he obviously has BELIEF in them which is a mental advantage to him. I wonder now exactly what he is wearing around his neck? Has he covered the bases? Is there a Star of David? A mezzuzah? An italian horn? )Just Kidding here) I am being a bit fascetious to make my point. I believe that whatever tradition of worship you were born into is where you belong, and though there are many religions, many outward signs to show who you identify with, there is but One Force (God) that hums through the universe. It seems like the Shrine would be his "platform" for prayer. If he believes in all these medallions as good luck, it can't hurt. It is rather funny to me, and now I am curious about him.

    He has amazing confidence and attack when he skates. I believe he will be a great Japanese skater and maybe the World Champion one day. I wish him well. Skate long, Yuzuru!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateluvr View Post
    He has amazing confidence and attack when he skates. I believe he will be a great Japanese skater and maybe the World Champion one day. I wish him well. Skate long, Yuzuru!
    I even put my money on Yuzuru to be the first Japanese men's Olympic Gold Medalist in figure skating!

    If there is someone who can surpass Dai's historic first Olympic medal, I believe it will be Yuzuru.
    2014 at Sochi seems a bit too high hurdle for Yuzuru. Maybe a podium finish at his best? But surely Gold medal is catchable come 2018.

    What he does at age 17 in his 2nd senior year is just amaging. He can still up his technical content in jump-wise; e.g. 4S that he constantly lands in practice, and has some room to grow artistically such as posture and edges.

    What excites me the most with Yuzuru is, he is too young now, so that we do not see yet what kind of skater he will be like with experiences and maturity.
    To me, he has tons of potential to become a dream skater, mixture of an Alexei, an Evgeni and a Johnny; strong but elegant, command on ice, confident but still crowd-pleasing, if he can stay injury-free. He is just that talented.

    Go Yuzuru!
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    Hi everyone, I'm Japanese,and I've been a big fan of yuzuru and figureskating.

    Few last two days, his weigh and cross"lucky charm" became the talk of this thread, I'm so happy if I have jointy a litllt bit more about him.
    But my English isn't a good , so please read inattentively in the end...Especially translate his words or feeling into other languages.

    First, about his weigh, it is unopened officially. I do think he will more than 52kg now, too. The information is two years ago,at least.

    While his height is opened by Jpanese figure skating official-fanbook. In according to this(published by 2012,12th Jan.) , the latest height is 171cm.
    This book is interviwed by more than a half year ago , thus I think he will be some taller now. I agree he's already had a major growth spurt.
    Then I think he is slender even in my eyes. Maybe other Japanese will agreement ; In fact a lot of Japanese people who see him is surprised his body line and his little face.
    (A source of twitter, blog,news forum and so on.)

    Otherwise, people who know him all this time feel he is getting more mature and powerful. If you watch his performance at 2009,Junior Worlds SP program(borelo I do like ><), he was really still more slender than now.

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