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    I find it significant that YuNa had such a bad back injury that she could barely skate in about 2007, yet several years later at the Olympics she was invincible. Now, several years after her decisive win at 2010, she has been able to return to skating virtually at the same level where she left. Clearly some change in her training program was instituted, and her back injury did not become chronic. Her trainer at that time was Orser. Whatever happened to split YuNa and Orser, he seems to have done her a huge amount of good. I hope that Yuzuru and Javier benefit from his coaching as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    I find it significant that YuNa had such a bad back injury that she could barely skate in about 2007, yet several years later at the Olympics she was invincible. Now, several years after her decisive win at 2010, she has been able to return to skating virtually at the same level where she left. Clearly some change in her training program was instituted, and her back injury did not become chronic. Her trainer at that time was Orser. Whatever happened to split YuNa and Orser, he seems to have done her a huge amount of good. I hope that Yuzuru and Javier benefit from his coaching as well.
    I don't think it was Orser.

    After her WR SP score at WC in Tokyo, she got several sponsors, which eventually helped her get a full-time personal physical therapist/rehab specialist dedicated to helping her stay healthy. She was plagued with back pain for 2 seasons since her senior debut. And this person, IIRC, was with her for 2 years, and he traveled everywhere with her and checked her condition to ensure that her back wouldn't be an issue for her. He left the post after Yuna's 2010 season and returned to Korea.

    Also she is still not pain free. Her back still pains her when she does layback. She admitted to this in a recent interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wxunxx View Post
    For example, from one Special TV Program of Yuzuru, named 東北未来人, broadcast on 19th Nov 2010.

    In the TV program, it's said Yuzuru was practicing 60 quad jumps in one hour a day, almost one minute one quad.

    "Kato San: After seeing video footage of Yuzuru's practice, I was shocked by his hard training.

    Honda San(Takeshi Honda, famous Japanese male skater): Yes, I'm worried. I would say Yuzuru practicing 60 quad jumps are too much, for me, to the most, I used to practice 20 quad jumps a day. 60 quad jumps, is that too much?

    Yuzuru: For me, I don't think I jumped too much, I addicted to practice jumps and easily I just forgot how many times I took off anyway. I definitely want to jump


    In last year interview, Orser said ...
    The "last interview" or "couples of time in different interviews" are supposed to be linked to the actual interviews. As well as youtube links to the presumed TV progs. I am amazed that you can remember the direct speeches spoken 3 years ago but not all of us are so gifted.
    Btw, for non-Japanese speakers, if you wish to google for the names wxunxx writes, just keep in mind that さん is not a proper name and therefore shouldn't be googled as "Honda San". Otherwise you will end up with "Honda of San Marcos" or somesuch.  
    Quote Originally Posted by giulia95 View Post
    yess!!! He came just in time to save the helpless hotheaded irresponsible kid from himself and from his monster japanese former coach!!
    At least you can enjoy the Godess Youtube where your Little Prince Charming won't be ever gone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZqttQHAwbU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    Clearly some change in her training program was instituted, and her back injury did not become chronic. Her trainer at that time was Orser.
    Quote Originally Posted by wxunxx View Post
    I remembered Yuna also suffered horrible low back pain when times got back to her Junior's, low back pain almost could end her career if I remember it correctly.
    Thanks a lot wxunxx for all your translation and information you brought even from Yuzuru's Junior year!

    Yuna suffered ligament injury of her ankle during season 2005-2006, then keen injury and lumbar disc herniation during season 2006-2007.
    She competed at 2008 Worlds with a recent hip injury and persistent back pain, where she was placed fifth in short but rebounded in free and won bronze.
    Is this just me or Yuzuru's 13 Worlds experience reminds me of Yuna's 2008WC? Only Yuzuru was placed 4th.

    I'm sure coaches have ways to prevent their skater from injury, but it's not like Yuna's chronic injury quickly disappeared when she trained under Orser, and she did suffer from new injury after moving to Cricket. Obviousely it takes time for coach & skater to understand each other and cooperate better in order to work out the most suitable training philosophy and train effectively, and of course helps from team doctor and physical therapist are mandatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wxunxx View Post
    Yes, Orser said couples of time in different interviews that effective training with a complete scientific training plan is required in order to make contribution for skaters.
    It must be tough as being a skater's mother, and please pass my sincere greeting to your little fighter, also please let her understand don't push too hard, sometimes slow down coz less is more. Staying away from all injuries. I wish her a bright future.
    Thank you! Actually she is a big fan of Yuzu, too! Yuzu has been giving her a big influence in a good way (but sometimes in a bad way such as "I have to push myself through a pain because Yuzu did the same thing too")

    Skaters cannot completely avoid the injuries and pains. Even at novice level, my skater already suffered hip (from many fallings from double axel) injury and knee pain (from sit spin). Even though her coaches, trainers, and I are trying hard to minimize the injuries by making her do off-ice training, things happen as long as you try to master a new skill.

    Last season (12-13) many skaters (international level, national level, local level) suffered all kinds of injuries from skating. I hope everybody trains well and be healthy this upcoming season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wxunxx View Post
    Yuzuru's words in Number Magazine, he just never fail to let me love him more.

    Magazine Number Extra Edition, 23rd Mar 2013.


    I cannot withdraw from FS Worlds. And I also think I cannot avoid challenging quads.
    It would be absolutely regret if I couldn't make contribution to secure 3 spots for Japan because I came here as Japanese National Champions.

    Coach Orser told me, one year practice has been accumulated. But competition is different from practice, please believe yourself has such kind of great strength to get through. Under hard physical condition, I burned my frustration today.
    Thank you wxunxx for those wonderful quotes!

    To Yuzuru, I know his effort, he will stand on Worlds podium again, I strongly believe so.
    Such kind words from Javier.They are great training mates.

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    The show's sponsored by Fuji TV. So, yes, it will eventually be broadcasted, I believe.
    Ok. Thanks for the information. Off season is so boring, I can't wait to see this new exhibition.

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    To all my Yuzuru fellows here, I guess I have to explain a bit.

    The reason why I could give out some detailed TV repo or interview is that I build up a Yuzuru Database long time ago, all these years obtaining information about Yuzuru Hanyu in categories, such as years, competitions, video repo, magazine repo etc.

    Trust me, I'm a human being not some sort of super memory robot lol.

    But I guess I have to say sorry for some misunderstandings may caused by my translations, all questions are welcomed indeed.

    If you are searching for videos I mentioned above, too bad that TV programs, documentaries produced by Japanese TV were easily deleted on YouTube due to restrict copyright.

    For example, you may not find 東北未来人 online. I'm sorry that I just found a video repo at a personal blog, published on 20th Nov 2010, big thanks to the blogger, http://ameblo.jp/mdx117-mikdt/entry-10713351589.html

    And Super News 28th Dec 2009, it's here, at Chinese video sharing network. Youku rocks! http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzM1MDU4ODky.html, and thx to the uploader.

    Hope it helps!

    Oh and to all thanks messages to me, I'm humbled and again I'm really glad I could help. I feel also quite moved seeing Yuzuru fans from all over the world here. We are family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    At least you can enjoy the Godess Youtube where your Little Prince Charming won't be ever gone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZqttQHAwbU
    Now that is a cute vid

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    wxunxx, we're really grateful for your contribution to this forum. So, you don't need to explain yourself.
    I scoured the web for the video but as you said, had no luck finding it and stumbled upon this blog instead. I believe s/he has the whole transcript of the documentary (separated into two parts):
    First half
    Second half
    Hope that helps.

    And not sure if this has been posted before, but these videos have some montage from the 'Tohoku Miraijin' documentary, it seems (16-year-old Yuzu, I'm starting to feel a sense of nostalgia ).
    Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by HJJ View Post
    Thank you! Actually she is a big fan of Yuzu, too! Yuzu has been giving her a big influence in a good way (but sometimes in a bad way such as "I have to push myself through a pain because Yuzu did the same thing too")

    Skaters cannot completely avoid the injuries and pains. Even at novice level, my skater already suffered hip (from many fallings from double axel) injury and knee pain (from sit spin). Even though her coaches, trainers, and I are trying hard to minimize the injuries by making her do off-ice training, things happen as long as you try to master a new skill.

    Last season (12-13) many skaters (international level, national level, local level) suffered all kinds of injuries from skating. I hope everybody trains well and be healthy this upcoming season!
    Geez such a cute little girl, I love her lol!!!. but please tell her that not everything Yuzuru did was correct, particularly overtraining himself. Overtraining could cause serious injuries and it may force her to quit skating.

    Hip injury and knee pain? Is she OK? I hope it's not that serious. It must be heart broken to see your little girl suffered. I'm so sorry about that.

    And I agree what you said, we only could wish all skaters avoid injuries which seems impossible in reality. Sigh, even I knew figure skating is such a dangerous sport for a long time, but I still feel so sad that every time I've been informed any skater injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_Michelle View Post
    Thanks a lot wxunxx for all your translation and information you brought even from Yuzuru's Junior year!

    Yuna suffered ligament injury of her ankle during season 2005-2006, then keen injury and lumbar disc herniation during season 2006-2007.
    She competed at 2008 Worlds with a recent hip injury and persistent back pain, where she was placed fifth in short but rebounded in free and won bronze.
    Is this just me or Yuzuru's 13 Worlds experience reminds me of Yuna's 2008WC? Only Yuzuru was placed 4th.

    I'm sure coaches have ways to prevent their skater from injury, but it's not like Yuna's chronic injury quickly disappeared when she trained under Orser, and she did suffer from new injury after moving to Cricket. Obviousely it takes time for coach & skater to understand each other and cooperate better in order to work out the most suitable training philosophy and train effectively, and of course helps from team doctor and physical therapist are mandatory.
    No problem at all.

    And I really appreciated your kind explanation of Yuna's conditions. Yes it takes time to figure out the most efficient way between skaters and coaches. Just stay positive, I believe Yuzuru and his team can make it.

    Quote Originally Posted by zydeco88 View Post
    wxunxx, we're really grateful for your contribution to this forum. So, you don't need to explain yourself.
    I scoured the web for the video but as you said, had no luck finding it and stumbled upon this blog instead. I believe s/he has the whole transcript of the documentary (separated into two parts):
    First half
    Second half
    Hope that helps.
    Yes the video used to be on YouTube then deleted unfortunately.

    And thanks so much about the links, I believe together we made it lol, whole transcript from the links you found and those captures from the link I found lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wxunxx View Post
    Geez such a cute little girl, I love her lol!!!. but please tell her that not everything Yuzuru did was correct, particularly overtraining himself. Overtraining could cause serious injuries and it may force her to quit skating.

    Hip injury and knee pain? Is she OK? I hope it's not that serious. It must be heart broken to see your little girl suffered. I'm so sorry about that.
    Thank you for your kind words.
    She is doing well now. Her hip injury was a kind of overuse injury. She was refrained from jumping for 2 weeks and had to withdraw from a competition. After 2 weeks, she was fine thankfully. Her knee problem has been going on and off. A certain position of a sit spin has bothered her knee a lot.

    Even with the injury, the pain, the hardship, she doesn't want to quit and loves skating more and more. I am sure that Yuzu (and most skaters) is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wxunxx View Post
    Oh and to all thanks messages to me, I'm humbled and again I'm really glad I could help. I feel also quite moved seeing Yuzuru fans from all over the world here. We are family.
    I think it's super that you have been following Yuzu's career for such a long time and documented his information all along. I'm a long time Yuzuru fan and see myself a mother to him, but I wouldn't have the patience to do so.

    BTW: I'm not sure if this vid has been posted already but I found really cute:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=G39k-ydWH20
    Does anyone know when Yuzuru started his facial massage habit before warm-up? GPF?

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    I remember him doing it at NHK Trophy too ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by wxunxx View Post
    To all my Yuzuru fellows here, I guess I have to explain a bit.

    The reason why I could give out some detailed TV repo or interview is that I build up a Yuzuru Database long time ago, all these years obtaining information about Yuzuru Hanyu in categories, such as years, competitions, video repo, magazine repo etc.

    Trust me, I'm a human being not some sort of super memory robot lol.

    But I guess I have to say sorry for some misunderstandings may caused by my translations, all questions are welcomed indeed.

    If you are searching for videos I mentioned above, too bad that TV programs, documentaries produced by Japanese TV were easily deleted on YouTube due to restrict copyright.

    For example, you may not find 東北未来人 online. I'm sorry that I just found a video repo at a personal blog, published on 20th Nov 2010, big thanks to the blogger, http://ameblo.jp/mdx117-mikdt/entry-10713351589.html

    And Super News 28th Dec 2009, it's here, at Chinese video sharing network. Youku rocks! http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzM1MDU4ODky.html, and thx to the uploader.

    Hope it helps!

    Oh and to all thanks messages to me, I'm humbled and again I'm really glad I could help. I feel also quite moved seeing Yuzuru fans from all over the world here. We are family.
    I don't think you realize how appreciative we are of you. Let me say thank you on behalf of every fan here and of all of the lurkers who visit but don't post

    (Yuzu's library of videos/pictures/and interviews needs it's own site xD)

    Let us continue to party on

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