But to think Patrick has the potential to score 190 in his LP if skated clean is crazy.....wonder how other skaters are going to adjust their programs to challenge chan ? I honestly think a clean daisuke is the only one who can beat a somewhat flawed chan.....I don't know if that was called "juniorish". It was quite mature but was big exaggaration in the movements. Yuzuru used bigger moves to express what it could be expressed more from inside. Nevertheless, I love it very much! An impressive BV (79.85), higher than Takahashi's BV (78.79). And an impressive TES (87.21), again higher than Takahashi's TES (87.05). It's become the second highest in TES only trails Chan's TES by 0.38. But I think he won LP over Fernandez is all he could ask for. I agree Fernandez won over all.
I love Fernandez's skating and so impressed with his ability for clean 4T and clean 4S. 100% successful rate so far!!! Can't get any better than that!!! The dance section was a little inadequate. My feeling for that part was like when I watch Kozuka's LP. Looking forward to Euro. and I'm rooting for him to win.
It was a great 4T! Abbott finally got it! I thought once he overcome his 4T, the rest would be a piece of cake. But noooooo, two disappointing falls. I've said enough about this LP already. Just wanted to add that I agree with whoever in this thread said about Jeremy's shoulders. He is indeed the 5th in this group. I also think his costume didn't do justice for him. Over amphasized the weakness - slim arms, and undermined his tall, good, seemingly perfect proportional stature.
I like Brezina and his skating very much. But, boy, he got to change his training regime, or change coach, or change something as soon as possible!!!
Now onto the unthinkables, maybe I should say the untouchables:
Chan BV=83.75 TES=87.59
Takahashi BV=78.79 TES=87.05
Think this way. If Chan didn't make any mistakes in his jumps in 4T, 4T-2T, and 3Lz. The maximum Chan could get from these three jumps would be 37.50. Instead, he got only 22.13 from them. A vast(-15.37) + (-1) (fall deduction) = -16.37. So Chan has lost 16.37 from jump errors.
On the other hand, Takahashi could get maximum from his 4T was 13.30. Instead, he got 7.73. He's lost 5.57 from jump error.
I'd think that was an enough punishment for Chan. Don't you think?
Right, some people said it was not about TES at all. It was about PCS.
Take a deep breath and see:
SS 8.75 8.75 8.25 9.50 8.75 8.75 8.75 8.50 9.00 8.75
TR 7.50 8.75 8.00 9.00 8.50 8.75 9.00 8.50 8.75 8.61
PE 9.25 8.00 8.25 8.50 9.00 8.50 8.75 8.50 8.75 8.61
CH 8.75 8.50 8.25 9.00 9.00 8.75 9.25 8.25 9.00 8.75
IN 9.25 8.75 8.25 8.50 9.00 8.75 9.00 8.50 9.25 8.82
Total PCS 87.08
SS 8.00 9.00 8.50 9.00 8.75 8.75 8.75 7.75 8.25 8.57
TR 7.50 9.00 8.50 8.75 8.25 8.75 8.25 5.50 8.50 8.36
PE 8.00 9.50 8.50 9.00 8.75 9.00 8.00 8.00 9.00 8.61
CH 7.75 9.00 8.25 9.25 9.00 8.75 8.00 6.75 8.75 8.50
IN 7.75 9.25 8.50 9.50 9.00 8.75 8.50 8.25 9.00 8.75
Total PCS 85.58
SS - Judge #2 and #3 gave Takahasi higher SS than Chan. No objection from any of you?! I personally think Chan's SS is about 0.50 higher than Takahashi's. But instead Chan got only 0.18 higher. That was a mistake.
TR - Again Judge #2 and #3 gave Takahashi higher TR than Chan. But Judge #8 gave a strange 5.50. I agree that was a huge mistake. However, Judge #8's 5.50 and Judge #2's 9.00 got go but Judge #3's score got stay.
PE - Judge #2, #3, #4, #6, and #9, 5 out of 9 judges gave Takahashi higher PE than Chan. The highest PE Takahashi received was 9.50. The highest PE Chan received was 9.25.
CH - Judge #2 and #4 gave Takahashi higher CH than Chan. The highest Takahashi got was 9.25. The highest Chan got was also 9.25. I personally think both programs are top knotch Choreographically. Again a strange 6.75 from Judge #8 but it got go in the end.
IN - Judge #2, #3, and #4 gave Takahashi higher IN than Chan. I wouldn't have given Takahashi 7.75 for IN. But it didn't matter because it didn't count. Skatinginbc, that was a huge, vast 0.07 loss for Takahashi on IN. To me, I don't think there was much to fuzz about with such. It was statistical margine difference or it could be called statistical error if you like. Another random draw, Judge #8 could be filtered out and forgotten. I could make a bigger case on SS than you have done on IN. But I'm not the judge. I'd give different numbers on each segment in PCS which might have set Takahahsi's total PCS higher in this particular skating. However, I don't think it'll make huge difference.
However, I can see Yuzuru challenging Chan at the 2014 Olympics if he continues to resolve his stamina problems and stay strong and healthy. Yuzuru is stronger technically than Chan, and with experience and more exposure, will probably receive higher PCs.