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Thread: GPF Free Dance, Sun. 12/11 at 1:50 pm EST

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    Pechalat/Bourzat: You know, I really liked their program last year, and it is SO unfortanate it was not clean when it counted. This just doesn't seem as good. They play characters really well, and it was good, but it was missing that emotional connection. This is especially apparent after Weaver/Poje. These 2 are the acrobats and daredevels of the sport. But it just didn't do it for me. I'll have to look at the score sheets later, since I'm just not getting the high score.

    Virtue/Moir: There is no other. Just out of this world, on a different planet. It's all the little steps in between, the articulation of the body with the music - an arm her, a look there, the extension of the leg. It is subtle, and marvelous, and really, really difficult. It's light, effortless, and musical and completely in character all the way through. Totally awesome score. And fabulous to see them get the credit for the PCS side.

    Davis/White: Very beautiful FD. She is the ballerina, and he is the base. They have very solid elements, and they are fast with a lot of flow. They have improved a lot in slowing down and matching the music better. It started to get a little frantic in the last 30 seconds, but the first part and the middle was very good. Davis/White have a program that suits them very well (not as good as Samson and Delilah in my opinion, but very close), and so do Virtue/Moir. In my opinion, if tech is equal, Virtue/Moir are the more musical and get the nod in my opinion. We are very fortunate to have such 2 amazing teams pushing the limits of the sport.

    Wow! That was a photo-finish! Just 0.05 points separating these 2 on the FD!! Interesting that Virtue/Moir had higher. TES, but not PCS. That is unbelievable to me. I would think that would be the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aniela View Post
    every time I see D/W's FD I like it less and less. I almost loved it at SA but tonight it does nothing to me :( I don't know why... I know that the execution of elements was excellent as always but I find the dance itself quite boring.
    That's how I feel too. I like D/W's music better than V/M's, but I'm less and less interested each time I see D/W's program.

    I'm surprised D/W won the FD. After seeing both teams back to back, I was really struck by D/W's lack of extension. Meryl's free bent free leg is really distracting.

    The team that impressed me today was W/P. I had tears in my eyes after that skate!
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    D/W are SUPERIOR to V/M!! Beat the Olympic gold medalists in their own backyard.

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    I didn't find Charlie's performance emotionless.

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    D/W skated awesome. Also Meryl looked very nice today. Loved the way she softened her makeup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymavy15 View Post

    But this competition cleared up one thing. If they are both clean, V/M will win easily. Even with Scott's mistakes and an bobble or two in the FD they were practically tied with Marlie's two clean skates.
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    @NorthernDancers: very good summary

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    Quote Originally Posted by missysays View Post
    Meryl with the French response- show off!!!
    Warming up for Worlds, maybe?

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    Protocols are out:

    V/M got all level 4's, but lost on GOE - probably because the slightly shaky setdown of two lifts. Nine 10.00's in PCS
    D/W got all level 4's, but one level 3. They won on the GOE. Twelve 10.00's in PCS

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    We're just damn lucky we're living through what will undoubtedly be known as one of the all-time great rivalries in sport, much like Chris and Martina, Ali and Frasier.

    One comment though...having lived through the era of traumadrama programs (the LP at the Olympics was like a Bergman movie, albeit one costumed by a very campy designer), it is so refreshing to see ice dance return to its roots, as dance. And not just dance--but as a combination of dance and (dare I say it?) sport.

    Bravo to all six teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axel Rose View Post
    That's how I feel too. I like D/W's music better than V/M's, but I'm less and less interested each time I see this program.

    I'm surprised D/W won the FD. After seeing both teams back to back, I was really struck by D/W's lack of extension. Meryl's free bent free leg is really distracting.

    The team that impressed me today was W/P. I had tears in my eyes after that skate!
    agree. W/P made my day! I actually thought that they could finish ahead of Nathalie and Fabian (I mean in FD).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymavy15 View Post
    Can get this rivalry get any better?

    But this competition cleared up one thing. If they are both clean, V/M will win easily. Even with Scott's mistakes and an bobble or two in the FD they were practically tied with Marlie's two clean skates.
    I think you are overlooking the five point margin carried over from the SD which led to a five point margin in the total score. If anything, as Doris element breakdown from the SD shows, they would likely have been in a virtual tie after the SD had the fall not happened and if level 4s had been acheived in rhumba and step sequence. They are both incredibly close when both are clean and equal on elements.

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    I was surprised V/M got less PCS. They're the best in the world in presentation. Their "togetherness", none can compare with them, they are so connected. D/W were fast but never seem to be connected. D/W're so robotic, the smile on their face,the movements, no connection. Scott is the best male icedancer in the world, IMO.

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    W/P were great. I had hoped they would break into the top 3 in the FD, but oh well.

    I have a feeling that if D/W had not opened up such a gap after the short dance, that they would have won the free dance by a larger margin. But because they had already built up such a lead, the judges may have tightened the scores in the FD between the top 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samba View Post
    I was surprised V/M got less PCS. They're the best in the world in presentation. Their "togetherness", none can compare with them, they are so connected. D/W were fast but never seem to be connected. D/W're so robotic, the smile on their face,the movements, no connection. Scott is the best male icedancer in the world, IMO.
    Robotic? Actually, I couldn't disagree with this more--and for a specific reason: Charlie is finally looking like he's relaxed out there. There isn't the gung-ho intensity of previous years. It's particularly noticeable in the SD. Hard to do when you're working with as much power and speed as he generates, but I am really seeing a significant difference this year. In an odd way, I think that tango did HIM a world of good. A bit of a paradox, perhaps, but there it is.

    Of course, I now expect the Voir fan base to come thundering down on my head, particularly when I add this: Voir are marvelous, marvelous performers, but I don't see them getting *better.* And I do think Marlie are. And that may account for the placements this year.

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