Patrick Chan

Bluebonnet · Apr 23, 2012

Boeing787 said:
It doesn't make sense to replace one 4T with a 4S in the long program. The value of 4S is only 0.2 point higher than that of a 4T. And Patrick's 4T should be more stable that his 4S.

The disadvantage of adding 4S to SP could be: none of the three jumps is easy now. NOw if he fails to add a 3T to the 4T, he can always add it to the 3Lz. If the 4S is included, there is a good chance he won't be able to add the 3T to either 4S or 4T (rules forbid adding it to 3A, I think). He will lose about three points in TES as a result, plus the PCS loss inccured.

All great points!

Brian Joubert did 3 quad LP only once. Tim Goebel had 3 quad LP. Mayby Reynolds had 3 quad Lp? Patrick is the most artistic skater among these 3 quad LP skaters. If Patrick could do it, he'd push the bar even higher than anyone has ever done.

Boeing787 · Apr 23, 2012

Did you notice that someone suggest Patrick work with Morozov? Your nightmare may come true!

Bluebonnet · Apr 23, 2012

Boeing787 said:
Did you notice that someone suggest Patrick work with Morozov? Your nightmare may come true!

I don't think Patrick will ever go to Morozov. Why Morozov?

Violet Bliss · Apr 23, 2012

Have you noticed who are enthusiastically contributing to the music for Patrick thread? And who suggested Morozov? :laugh:

Nice try. Thanks but no thanks.

Bluebonnet · Apr 23, 2012

SkateFiguring said:
Have you noticed who are enthusiastically contributing to the music for Patrick thread? And who suggested Morozov? Nice try. Thanks but no thanks.

I know. I read it earlier.

Boeing787 · Apr 23, 2012

Looks like someone really wants Patrick to work on his butt expression. :bang:

Bluebonnet · Apr 23, 2012

Relax! Who cares!

Like Patrick will ever listen to them.

Violet Bliss · Apr 23, 2012

Boeing787 said:
Looks like someone really wants Patrick to work on his butt expression.

Patrick's butt is said to be very bored and I suspect it is posting here to let us know how bored it is and in need of Morozov's edification.

Boeing787 · Apr 23, 2012

SkateFiguring said:
Patrick's butt is said to be very bored and I suspect it is posting here to let us know how bored it is and in need of Morozov's edification.

:agree:

Srin Odessa · Apr 23, 2012

Boeing787 said:
It doesn't make sense to replace one 4T with a 4S in the long program. The value of 4S is only 0.2 point higher than that of a 4T. And Patrick's 4T should be more stable that his 4S.

The disadvantage of adding 4S to SP could be: none of the three jumps is easy now. NOw if he fails to add a 3T to the 4T, he can always add it to the 3Lz. If the 4S is included, there is a good chance he won't be able to add the 3T to either 4S or 4T (rules forbid adding it to 3A, I think). He will lose about three points in TES as a result, plus the PCS loss inccured.

The advantage of replacing the second 4T with a 4S is that the quad salchow does not have to be in combination. Chan has occasionally missed the triple toeloop on the first quad and goes into the second quad with the mentality of having to have it in combination to have it count. With this theoretical setup, he can save the triple toeloop for the second half of the program in which it will gain more points. For that matter, he can repeat another triple jump, such as the axel or flip, in the second half since the second 4T is not one of two repeated jumps. This is how Javier Fernandez can push his BV so high since he has two different quads with two triple axels and two triple toeloops. The downside is that you're on heightened zayak alert if you pop one of the quads into a triple.

With less technical elements in the short, it's ideal to skate as clean as possible while getting the Tech as high as possible. A solo triple lutz can accommodate a combination if the opening quad combination becomes a solo jump. It's much more difficult to that with a quad salchow with connecting steps.

Ravensque · Apr 23, 2012

Sorry to cut in on the discussion but I thought I'd post this old interview just in case anyone hasn't seen it. It was done with Patrick's reporter friend who just passed away: http://olympics.thestar.com/2010/article/707970--the-naked-truth-about-patrick-chan.

I agree with what Srin Odessa contributed about the jumps.

Boeing787 · Apr 23, 2012

Srin Odessa , good points.

Patrick's ex performance at WTT, hate the background music though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utpuks1JQYM

Boeing787 · Apr 23, 2012

SkateFiguring said:
A little levity - Patrick got special treatments at medal ceremony:

2. Getting patted by the medal presenter. She couldn't help herself.

She seems to be an Japanese, right? Or Patrick will be accused of being ISU's dear son again!

blue dog · Apr 23, 2012

Slightly out of topic, but I must commend Patrick on how he has represented skating. There may have been times when people have not been happy with what he said to the media, but for the most part, he has been a great ambassador of our sport (I say our, because, yes, I do skate--I may not be going to senior nationals, but skating is as much a part of my little heart as it is, I'm sure, Patrick's).

That being said, as fans of any skater (whether it's Patrick, Dai, D/W, V/M, V/T, or anyone), we have to realise that by our fandom, we are REPRESENTING that skater in our own way by participating on these message boards. Like the skaters we idolize or demonize, we represent the sport in some way. Therefore (and this goes for me, too), we must all act responsibly in how we represent our favorites. Sometimes, we may feel attacked, but it does not help our favorites win any competition by attacking other posters. What is under attack, as I've said before, are not the skaters we love, but just our own ideas. I know our ideas mean a great deal to us, but please, let's try not to attack one another in the name of Patrick, Mao, or anyone else. They're doing their best to represent the sport. Let's do our best to represent them.

*Jumps off cheesy soapbox*

Ravensque · Apr 23, 2012

SkateFiguring said:
Patrick's butt is said to be very bored and I suspect it is posting here to let us know how bored it is and in need of Morozov's edification.

Patrick need NEVER resort to finger licking or hip thrusting.........pulease Skate Gods.

STARushka · Apr 24, 2012

Ravensque said:
Patrick need NEVER resort to finger licking or hip thrusting.........pulease Skate Gods.

+100!

Violet Bliss · Apr 24, 2012

Ice Network has named Patrick Chan Skater Of The Year, followed by Kostner and Virtue/Moir.

Congratulations, Patrick, for the obvious and well earned honour.

Ravensque · Apr 24, 2012

SkateFiguring said:
Ice Network has named Patrick Chan Skater Of The Year, followed by Kostner and Virtue/Moir.

Congratulations, Patrick, for the obvious and well earned honour.

Ditto on that. It was a well-earned honor........for all the recipients.

Here's a little tidbit that I picked up on another board from You Tube: You may have seen it before but just in case here it is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eamccuQCvR0

Violet Bliss · Apr 24, 2012

^^^^^This has been posted before, as were the few earlier, but this is what is nice about having a fan thread. Now we have some of the favorites videos, pictures and write ups all in the same easy to find place.

Bluebonnet · Apr 24, 2012

Congratulations, Patrick! :love:

Ravensque said:
Here's a little tidbit that I picked up on another board from You Tube: You may have seen it before but just in case here it is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eamccuQCvR0

How did I miss this video?! Never watched it before! Thanks so much for bringing it up again, Ravensque!

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