12-13-2012, 12:21 PM
Above two links, you can watch the different between Patrick Chan and Javier fernandez, in skating skill, speed, ice coverage, body movement. I don't think Chan rob the bronze medal.
12-13-2012, 12:55 PM
My question is... will Lori take him back?
12-13-2012, 01:18 PM
On the Ice
Did Lori and Christy come in a package?
12-13-2012, 01:27 PM
No, he didn't. I prefer a well-balanced program. Fernandez is not well-balanced in my mind. There is a huge gap between his jumping abilities and skating abilities. If we use a scoring system that emphasizes balance among skills (e.g., Total Score = TES × PCS), the gap between the two skaters will be great enough to tell you that Chan's 0.04 win was not because of "luck".
Originally Posted by crosses9
12-13-2012, 04:52 PM
SkateFiguring took the violet pill
I've always liked Fernandez, even before he broke out to be a top contender. He has a lot of charm and personality on ice but he hasn't explored beyond portrayal of iconic characters who are almost caricatures. Patrick, OTOH, has expressed his artistry in various ways: to pure music, about passion (POTO) and fun and young love (Take 5), and story telling such as La Boheme. Compared to Aranjuez, La Boheme is easier to appreciate and enjoy as it portrays different emotions in various stages of a story. Patrick's Aranjuez, however, is ethereal and spiritual, expressing with skating the evolution of a mind. I wonder who else has the skills and artistry for such a program? It's a masterpiece by Lori and Patrick.
Lori is a champions' choreographer for good reasons. She really works with each skater to optimally utilize their skills and unique performance qualities to create a program they can excel in with the most ease. She is a proven champion maker.
Lori had been with Patrick since he was very young, described as his mother on ice. She is a certified coach and did a lot more than choreographing for him. When Krall took over from Law, she and Lori were co-coaches for Patrick, taking care of technical and artistic side of his skating. But Lori started keeping a low profile, not showing up in K&C, probably because of criticism about her influence in judging. I suppose Lori and Christy became a package politically when conflicts arose within Team Chan. But Lori and Patrick have a long history in their relationship beyond teaming up with Krall. It is a good thing that Patrick tries other choreographers in his growth, but for the Olympics, I hope he will be back with the champion maker, his long time friend and mentor, the one and only Lori Nichol.
Originally Posted by starryxskies
Last edited by Violet Bliss; 12-13-2012 at 04:59 PM.
12-13-2012, 07:37 PM
SF ... I hope and pray that you are correct.
On another note... yeah I will see him skate tomorrow.
12-13-2012, 11:12 PM
Saw the show in Stratford tonight, was fun, I had never seen live FS before. Patrick performed his Kingdom Come and new "I Need A Dollar" ex, the one with the hat. He was great, but I honestly think he must be so tired, both physically and mentally, not to mention the jet lag! He just didn't seem as fast or skate as big, although maybe that has something to do with being in a smaller arena??? He still had his smiles though and I was so happy to see him skate! In fact, I have to say, seeing our 4 World Champions skating together (and alone) was just plain awesome, I'm so proud of all of them and it's amazing that they're all SO incredibly different with regards to their styles. Very impressive.
Honorable mention goes to Elvis, he skated to My Sharona and it was so much fun, it really took me back to when he used to compete, even though he wasn't the most artistic, he was powerful, and he still is. My mom was like: "he's still got it". He also did a more lyrical skate to a Christmas song that I should really remember, but for the life of me cannot. It was very nice, lots of breaks, but nice just the same.
And Kurt did Singing in the Rain, he's just so damn cute and entertaining, I can't believe he still does this!!!
Oh, and of course Jeff did a fantastic job, seriously, I wish he still competed, I miss his artistry!
12-14-2012, 03:05 AM
Tripping on the Podium