What ever happened to the story about the Chineese using skaters with age discrepencies for the events they won?
http://tinyurl.com/7lxunk3
What ever happened to the story about the Chineese using skaters with age discrepencies for the events they won?
http://tinyurl.com/7lxunk3
wow, like in gymnastics. china is a world power and their blatant cheating and disregard for so many human rights taints their athletes and just makes the world angry. this coming superpower wants to win, at whatever cost. such a shame, such a danger.
^agreed. So, did anything happen as far as titles won when the athletes were clearly too old or too young? Dont get me wrong, I really enjoy many of the Chineese skaters....but the medals need to be returned if the skaters were not eligible and the history books corrected....
I think nothing happened, though I recalled talk after Beging of maybe having to return medals. But I don't follow elite gymnastics. I guess a google search in needed.
Nothing happened. The conclusion was ages submitted to ISU were correct while the ones posted on the national website were wrong because of typing mistakes. ISU didn't have any proof to show they cheated. It is easy for Chinese citizens to have their ages changed. Not only athletes, but also ordinary people do that to attend school or get married earlier.And once ages got changed, the fake ones become legally real ones.
I think skaters should not be blamed. They were forced to have their ages changed and keep their real ages as secrets. Governors in skating organization force young skaters to train a lot and compete at senior level in order to purchase good grades as soon as possible,so that they themselves could be promoted. And once the truth is uncovered, the organization either try to erase all the proofs, or put all the blames on athletes, just as they did on the poor girl Fangxiao Dong in gymnastics, who became disabled because of heavy training and got deprived of her job and all the grades her earned because of fake age.
Last edited by wjww; 12-23-2011 at 12:51 AM.
Ah, that is sad, about Fangxiao Dong.
Typing errors, eh? Then why did those errors happen only in a convenient way (over-reporting the age of a girl yet under-reporting the one of a man)? Aren't errors supposed to be random? How did the Chinese officials explain themselves out of that?Originally Posted by wjww
Last edited by skatinginbc; 12-23-2011 at 05:49 AM.
Any solid proof or just yet another accusation, similar to the 2008 Olympic? The 2008 Olympic was clear and it was just typical Americans trying to make some noise about losing the gold to the Chinese.
I just hate that China always get the bad vibe from the world. Basically, when some rumor starts, China must be guilty
Chinese skaters, including the Zhangs, have publically declared that their ages were falsified and they want the practice stopped. The athletes themselves want this practice to stop. They are decent people who do not want to cheat to get medals. But since the Chinese government participates in this fraud, there is little that the sports federations can do. They must accept the official documents the Chinese government provides to its athletes.I just hate that China always get the bad vibe from the world. Basically, when some rumor starts, China must be guilty
I applaud the skaters for speaking up and while I would like to think that the Chinese federation would be sufficiently embarassed by the publicity to stop these practices, I won't hold my breath.
"so many human rights taints"
Did you ever come to China? If you didn't, you should remember this "乌鸦笑猪黑，自己不觉得"！
It is just their "typing errors".
Somehow I think the parents do have a say in such "data errors". At least they agree on it. Everybody wants to get the big price. Age change has minimun impact on the kids, esp. when they medal. there will be big reward if they medal.
It is almost impossible for them to refuse such suggestions. Figure skating would be too expensive if there is no support from the government. As all the boots and costumes you wear, all the ice you skate on and all the coaches around you are paid by the government, how could you say no to their words? Refusal is costly and unadvisable.
I thought this was something new but that was a story form 2011/2/15.
I would like to know the source of this. I remember the Zhangs scoffing at the allegations. On their site, http://zhdanzhhao.sports.cn/, Front and centre and on top are three headlines with links, plus an additional picture and link on top left, about their ages being cleared by 2011/2/18 while the other alleged violations were still under investigation.
"乌鸦笑猪黑，自己不觉得" ("The pot calling the kettle black"; Greek: Ipe o gaidaros ton petino kefala "The donkey calling the rooster big head") is not a good defense or excuse for one's ignominious human rights practices. Acknowledging the wrongs of one's country is true patriotism. Without admitting the flaws, one will never take the first step for improvement.
Agreed, skatinginbc. History is full of countries that looked long and hard at themselves and stood up to admit a shortcoming. It generally has been beneficial. Certainly the U.S. has had many instances of blushing publicly, including apologizing for Japanese internment in World War II and admitting the most egregious wrongs of segregation. This has made us stronger, not weaker. (Add to that the fact that the people who were wronged in both those cases were also Americans.)
Language question: Is "kefala" the word in that phrase that means "head" in Greek? Like the element in hydrocephalus and encephalitis? How neat!
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