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How many wishes do I get? Well, #1 is: Alissa Czisny skates clean, including a 3Lz/3T in her FS, at Nationals and Worlds. Woo-hoo, Alissa!
I don't even know where to begin after that.
Mao and Taka become an off ice couple.
I didn't know that about Haines! That's so cool. It cements the importance of ice dancing in figure skating, as well. Thanks for the explanation.
And I didn't realize that German was the original language of skating. It makes sense. Though Haines was I think American, skating seems to have caught on first and most fiercely in Central Europe, judging by the early winners, except of course for Madge Syers of Britain. I think that in most languages with gender-reflecting adjectives (French, German, Russian--almost everything except English), the masculine is indeed the default. Spanish now styles things with the feminine in parentheses sometimes, but as far as I know, French uses masculine adjective endings in singular and plural when a mixed group is being referred to, or in the case of nouns with two variations. As I recall, for example, les Francais (can't do the cedille under the c on my home computer) is "The French" when either men or both genders are referred to, so it's implying the inclusion of les Francaises as well.
I am not asking for much but
1. Patrick stay on his feet for more than 2minutes.
2. Mirai gets her miracle skate at US nationals and then to medal at WC
3. Hanyu get to medal at WC (tiny chance, but i just love his Romeo and Juliet program)
4. Artistry in skating get proper acknowledgement, but alas it is a lost cause.
5. Ladies bring back their 3:3s, 3As and win on the merit of their skate rather than advantage of the rules and favoured political status (yeah more lost cause).
6. Plushy's return to win at least 1 event at WC. Yes it will be epic and controversial but surely awesome!
For those interested in the origins of ice dance
This is why Les Patineurs Waltz by Waldteufel was written in 1882.Ice dancing was born with the waltz in Vienna at the end of the 19th century. It was an American, Jackson Haines, who popularized it and virtually defined a style that remains in force today: long, graceful glides on a 3/4 beat, with variations in the middle as a break. That style made its way from Vienna to Broadway in the Ice Follies of 1915. The star of that show moved to Hollywood in 1916 and became the first skater to star in a motion picture, the silent epic "The Frozen Warning."
And why Boitano skated to it in antique looking costume in his 1988 SP
old print of 2 women dancing on ice
photo of 3 women dancing on ice in Central park
Last edited by dorispulaski; 01-01-2012 at 01:57 PM.
Wishes imply they are not currently happening. So let me raise some points on the more easily verifiable facts on a couple of wishes:
Wish #1: Of the 10 performances of the 2 competitive programs in 2011 ISU events and the Nationals, only once did Patrick Chan not stay on his feet for more than 2 minutes. I don't see the need and emphasis placed on such a wish.
1. Do you care to expound on Ladies who didn't "win on the merit of their skate rather than advantage of the rules and favoured political status"? Since I have no objection to skating to win on the advantage of the rules, which I consider legitimate and intelligent, can you give us examples of Ladies winning on favoured political status and why you consider them to have done so? (Personally I can think of one questionable win with an extremely slim margin so this is not a big concern with me.)
2. Here's a list of 3/3 performed by Ladies at 2011 ISU events:
Ksenia Makarova - 3T/3T SP Worlds, 3T/3T< LP Worlds
Sarah Hecken - 3T/3T LP Worlds
Alena Leonova - 3T/3T SP Worlds, 3T/3T LP Worlds, 3T/3T SP NHK, 3T/3T LP NHK, 3T/3T SP COR, 3T/3T LP COR, 3T/3T SP GPF, 3T/3T LP GPF
Carolina Kostner - 3T/3T SP Worlds, 3T/3T SP SA, 3T/3T SP COC, 3T/3T SP TEB, 3T/3T SP GPF
Kanako Murakami - 3T/3T< SP Worlds, 3T/3T LP Worlds, 3F/3T< SP COC 3F/3T << SP TEB
Cheltzie Lee - 3T/3T SP Worlds
Yuna Kim - 3Lz/3T LP Worlds
Kiira Korpi - 3T/3T LP Worlds
Alissa Czisny - 3Lz/3T<< LP SA
Adelona Sotnikova - 3T/3T SP SC, 3Lz/3Lo (e) LP COC, 3Lz/3T (e) LP COR
Elizaveta Tuktamisheva - 3Lz/3T SP SC, 3Lz/3T LP SC, 3Lz/3T SP TEB, 3Lz/3T LP TEB, 3Lz/3T SP GPF, 3Lz/3T LP GPF
Christina Gao - 3F/3T SP COC, 3F/3T LP COC
Kexin Zhang - 3T/3T SP COC, 3T/3T LP COC
Sofia Biryukova - 3T/3T SP COR, 3T/3T LP COR
Agnes Zadwazki - 3T/3T SP NHK, 3T/3T (fall) SP COR
Akiko Suzuki - 3T/3T SP NHK
Mae Berenice Meite - 3T/3T SP NHK, 3T/3T SP TEB
Shoko Ishikawa - 3T/3T< SP NHK, 3T/3T LP NHK
Yretha Silete - 3T/3T SP TEB
I know #4 is your major sore point but you've spoken plenty on that so no request for further clarification from me.
Last edited by SkateFiguring; 01-01-2012 at 04:00 PM. Reason: 2011 is no longe "this year"
I started watching ice dance after I became a member here cause people convinced me with their way to look at it. Before I was watching only the very top teams in the beginning of the 2000s. While I m still too lazy to read the rules so I can understand the discipline better -especially the lifts-I like to speculate because of repetition what the rules might be, but I wanted to say that I would never want such a discipline to disappear, watching their feet is really very imrepssive for me, and Nadine I invite you to watch live, the original dance at Euros 2010 is still a very memorable competition for me
Happy New Year to all.
I enjoyed Ice Dance for its entertainment value before going to nationals in 2005. Watching live - especially the compulsaries (their figures if you will) - made all the difference in the world... loved me some TanBen and MelDen!
Liza to learn better spin positions
Bobrova and Soloviev to take out that god-awful lift from their short and free dance
Bobrova and Soloviev to redo their footwork sequences in the free dance so that the steps actually correspond to what is happening rhythmically and melodically in the music
Virtue and Moir win Worlds
Weaver and Poje medal at worlds
Mao wins worlds
Savchenko and Szolkowy win worlds setting another world record in the process
Savchenko and Szolkowy ditch their current short program
Bazarova and Larionov medal at worlds with two clean skates
Takahashi to win worlds
Patrick Chan to fall on every element so that his PC's can't keep boosting him up
I think wishing a skater to fall is not a very healthy attitude fan - wise, these are ahletes, not our puppets, neither it increases the quality of the sport we are supposed to love watching them fall.
If wishes were horses!