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    ISU judging error for dance results GPF

    http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/pa...00.html?id=985

    V/M won the FD and D/W were second.

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    Didn't Doris call this out? Doris is right!

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    The letter minimizes the issue. Every competition that used the sportcentric software probably has the problem. That includes Senior B's, US Sectionals, etc. etc.

    While the maximum error involved is 0.5, there are cases when a personal best, or a qualification score for 4CC's, etc. might be affected. If you are worried about a particular score of a combination lift which was called level 4 in both parts of the combo, the GOE should be equal to the average of the group of judges' GOE scores, with the highest and lowest dropped.
    Examples:
    If you got all 3's, your total GOE should be 3.00 and your score for the element should be 11.00.
    If you got all 2's your total GOE should 2.00 and your score for the element should be 10.00
    If you got half 2's and half 3's, your total GOE should be 2.50 and your score for the element should be 10.50.

    I am not sure whether the negative GOE's work the same way. In some elements, the negative side is less or more than the positive side, but probably the same is true.

    Consequently if you were behind a team which got -3 on a level 4 combo lift, their score for the element should be 5.00, but you should check, because I'm not sure about this part, not having read the original description of work.

    And so forth.

    If you check the Skate America protocols, you will find that after the high and low are dropped, P&B had all 2's. They only got 9.70 for their combo lift, rather than 10.00.
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    Scoring error at GPF

    The ISU posted about a scoring error on their website :

    http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/pa...00.html?id=985

    What do you think? (Please keep it civil and be mindful of forum rules)

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    hm. i bet V/M are happy now, after scott was a sore loser about it.

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    Scott was most unhappy about their PCS scores, which were unchanged, and still lower than D&W's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macy View Post
    hm. i bet V/M are happy now, after scott was a sore loser about it.
    Well I think I'd be mad too if that kind of error happened to me.

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    What is shocking to me is that no one checked until now. This has been going on at every event using isu software this year, including US Sectionals (where Hubbell & Donahue were slightly underscored), and Russian nationals ( where Pushkash & Guerreiro were underscored by about .25). (I checked)

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    Quote Originally Posted by icefan1005 View Post
    Well I think I'd be mad too if that kind of error happened to me.
    sure i would be mad too, but how scott acted about it was uncalled for. but the error was in technical elements, not pcs, which is what scott was mad about mostly, if i remember right. they still are lower than D/W.

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    Also remember that D/W got one level three element compared to V/M. Had they been on equal footing as far as base value goes, they would have won the free dance as well. Still knowing that the margin between them is so razor thin will likely light a fire under both teams and spur them on to get that much better as they seek for any discernible edge. It really can go either way with these skaters.

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