Mathman
So they are the victims --- second definition, a person deceived/cheated (of first place in Free Dance) by impersonal agency (judges). i.e. victims of mistake. At least that is my understanding of the meaning of the word "victim"
Although, of course victims/victimization is used too often and sometimes not correctly by MSM/journalists.
Last edited by katia; 01-05-2012 at 05:21 PM.
Well, they were harmed as a result of an event or action, even though the harm may be deemed insignificant by some.Originally Posted by Mathman
Yes, a journalist's choice to use the word which is often colored, such that a victim usually has to be someone the public would feel sympathy for, may induce. But the use of the word is not wrong in its meaning as you define it.
Both genicides and pranks have victims.
Last edited by SkateFiguring; 01-05-2012 at 05:24 PM.
^ Note how you had to thread your way through the definition, finding just the right words to select while discarding those words that describe the clear meaning and common usage of the word.
Last edited by Mathman; 01-05-2012 at 05:29 PM.
mathman
so if someone was injured as a result of some action, , according to you that also would be "threading your way through the definition" because then you are discarding the words "killed" or "harmed" and "accident". And of course one never says "victims of mistake" .....according to you. ROTFL
Last edited by katia; 01-05-2012 at 05:32 PM.
Yes, because the definition gives a wide range.
Thus, one may be a victim of a crime, a disaster, a slander, a situation, a mistake, an accident, or just a prank. In this case, a human and technological errors combined.
^ I seem to be the victim of a tag-team by SkateFiguring and Katia. I had better retreat from my former position.
Now I will look up the proper meaning of the phrase, "oh the poor babies!"
Anyway, that's water over or under the dam or bridge. What actually caught my eye in the article posted by npa was David Dore's take on the old 6.0 judging system.
David Dore: Listen, there was nothing wrong with the other system, it was good for hundreds of years.
Last edited by Mathman; 01-05-2012 at 05:37 PM.
Hundreds of years?
mathman,
you mean that system was present during the Middle Ages? How interesting!!!
Since numeral systems are usually decimal or duodecimal, a 6.0 system should encompass even longer period per unit, like the proverbal dog year. Hundreds of 6.0 years could be a thousand normal years!
In teleconference with Virtue/Moir today, Tessa revealed that they changed one lift in the SD, the curve lift in the middle of the program has been changed to a rotational lift at the end. Also they changed the first lift in the FD as well as eliminated some stops within the FD.
Eliminating the stops and changing the first lift are excellent changes. The first lift, because they never seemed secure in it, and it was consistently the lowest scoring of the 3 lifts. And the stops, because they are times that add no points, only resting spots.
I do wonder why they changed the 2nd lift-perhaps because it isn't that distinct from part of the 3rd lift? I'd like to know the rationale for changing that lift.
They changed the SD lift to a rotational at the end because they felt it would make a more exciting finish to the program.
What do you mean? KKonas' comments was that they changed the one lift in the SD and the first lift in the FD. The second lift in the FD remains the same according to his comment, right?
Ahhh. I misread KKonas's post then.
Thank you, KKonas, for your excellent insider reports. :cooL:
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