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    I predict a massive American takeover.

    Jeremy Abbott- OGM
    Patrick Chan- OSM
    Adam Rippon- OBM

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatinginbc View Post
    I provided a link to some photos of his starfish hands in his Take Five.
    I saw that picture, but that was not the sartsifh hands Johnny referred to - he was talking about Patrick's hands when he opened them as wide as possible( another indication it was intentional).

    Take a look at his 2009 LP. The openning pose is similar to the one in POTO, but different hands (don't play, just look at the picture):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uExE...tailpage#t=33s
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    Quote Originally Posted by skatinginbc View Post
    Since you are the one who makes that assertion, the burden of proof lies upon you. Why not just go ahead and create a new thread for that? I would name it "Starfish Hands and Rose Wreaths".
    I can't be bother. To think that Chan's the only one that has the "starfish" hands is ridiculous. So what do you call the other men's hands when they open up? Paper hands? Jazz hands? Or those men don't open their hands at all when they skate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Here is Spongebob Squarepants and his BFF Patrick.

    http://images2.fanpop.com/image/phot...49-616-536.jpg
    Thanks MM - will be giggling about this all day

    Blades - I look forward to spend much more time reading your post and watching examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue View Post
    Blades, you must love the recent proposal to remove the terms "straight-line, circular, serpentine" from the footwork definitions because COP requirements don't allow for the pattern to be followed. Then again, I also don't get the big deal about Yuka Sato's footwork, and love great COP footwork (Lambiel in "Poeta," for example, Chan's POTO). Call me a philistine.
    I don't like that proposal at all, it means the problem is being ignored and will continue to linger.

    The big deal about Yuka's footwork is how musical it is and how it flies across the ice in combination with some of those edges. That is very difficult to do. I would wager that very few women could perfectly replicate Yuka's footwork if they tried. Yet, they can all do what CoP currently calls a Level 3 footwork sequence.

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    Oh, I know - I was being sarcastic

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue View Post
    you must love the recent proposal to remove the terms "straight-line, circular, serpentine" from the footwork definitions because COP requirements don't allow for the pattern to be followed.
    Uh-oh, all footwork will be Zamboni step sequence, meandering back and forth to cover all the ice.
    Quote Originally Posted by jettasian View Post
    To think that Chan's the only one that has the "starfish" hands is ridiculous.
    I'm not particularly crazy about Johnny's skating and don't always pay attention to his speech. I might have heard of "starfish hands" before, but the term never truly registered in my brain until recently a great number of "starfish" posts cropped up here and there in every thread. The more people talk about it, the stronger its association with Patrick grows, so much so that it has become his signature move, his brand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    I don't like that proposal at all, it means the problem is being ignored and will continue to linger.

    The big deal about Yuka's footwork is how musical it is and how it flies across the ice in combination with some of those edges. That is very difficult to do. I would wager that very few women could perfectly replicate Yuka's footwork if they tried. Yet, they can all do what CoP currently calls a Level 3 footwork sequence.
    Yeah...you can't replicate Yuka's magic from a book of rules. It has to come from something else, and I do hope the rule book leaves room for such a happy occurrence.

    Into my mind flashed a sudden image from the Andersen fairy tale "The Emperor's Nightingale." The emperor heard a nightingale singing in the wild and had an elaborate mechanical nightingale made to replicate the beautiful song sung by the Real Thing. Of course the mechanical nightingale's song didn't have the magic and beauty of the living nightingale. You can't manufacture that sort of thing. It has to come from a skater who has it inside of him or her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue View Post
    Blades, you must love the recent proposal to remove the terms "straight-line, circular, serpentine" from the footwork definitions because COP requirements don't allow for the pattern to be followed.
    A few skaters will then be free to move all over the ice with complex patterns while some will just do their frenzied upper limb movements while skating around and over the ISU logo at center ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Chan is a mortal lock for gold. If he skates clean he wins by 50-70 points, if he falls 6 to 8 times he wins by 10-20 points.

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    Good that those terms might be removed. They all look circular serpentine there is no straight. Straighline does not exist anymore at all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetskates1 View Post
    I predict a massive American takeover.

    Jeremy Abbott- OGM
    Patrick Chan- OSM
    Adam Rippon- OBM
    I would like to see Abbott do clean! Even at worlds 2010 he fell twice! I would like to see how much he could fall now and medal! Maybe he could be like Chan. But GPF 2011 was bad because he fell like a stone down the standings. Takahashi can also fall dramatically down the standings. Only person who really doesn't fall dramatically down the standings is Chan. Chan may not have a muti fall cushion in winning gold but to not medal he would have to fall and pop jumps.

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