And what exactly would Patrick "intentionaly" be doing by use of the so called star fish hands while skating to Phantom of the Opera? And Phantom of the Opera music hould not be skated to with so called "ballet hands?" Could you show us a clip of starfish hands? That is a new term for me.
Watch the program and you can see there are only a few moves in POTO Patrick used so called Starfish hands. Like many other things said about him, just because someone picked it out and mocked him, cute as it was, it became accepted as his norm.
Very minor, but ballet dancers will tell you the hands and arms are the last to develop into finesse and expression. In dance, the 'starfish' hands are jazz hnds, and the more balletic finger positions are of course totally appropriate for the POTO. He is young, and I do not know if they cross train him with ballet. I hope they do, so that he will have good turnout from the hips for his spread eagles. patrick will one day skate with an awareness of perfect ands as means of expression. i didn't read all the postings but that seems a very minor thing to criticize, and it is easily corrected with awareness. His athleticism came long before hi artistry. We forget, for a male skater, he has many years to perfect those things, especially if he does not train ballet. Anyone know what on the floor dance training he has had?
I hope there is a professional life for him after amateur, and we can see him 5 years from now. It will be a real shame if we don't get to see him mature. Kurt, who is the best ever for me, was not perfectly polished in all the ways he is now at 21.When someone has Patrick's special skating skills, people want to see him perfect and vertical. I think the little criticisms come from seeing someone with such amazing raw talent. We used to expect Sasha to be perfect, as she was so, so special. When she fell, it was very distressing, as she was such a special, unique skater. I think it is the same with PAtrick. We want those clean performances so we can feel really satisfied at this phenomenal guy.
Michelle used a variety of hand positions while she skated including the starfish, lol. She was not ballet trained as far as I know. I have always wondered why not. I think her hand positions and some slowness in her spins in some skates were the only things not always perfect.
Nicole Bobek who took ballet used the most beautiful hands along with Sasha. For men, Adam Rippon has beautiful arm and hand positions. He is very detailed right down to his fingertips. Again, it is so beautiful until he wipes out on his jumps. Hopefully, he and Patrick will become consistent comp. jumpers. I think those two and Dai (and the "new" Evgeni) are the most elegant men in the world. Hanyu will be there too in the strosphere with them before long in terms of elegance I hope. And Artur is elegant as well.
Anyway, are we back to the starfish subject again, running the risk of getting some people mad? Or should we switch to other seafood, like octopus hands, swordfish hands, fishball hands.....hm fish balls......Yum....
One of two things will happen:
A. Chan will fall and be judged fairly. Pluehenko will earn the Gold.
B. Chan will skate clean and be crowned the Olympic champion. But Russia will launch a protest. A second gold will be given to Plushenko, and next year the judging point system will be completely different.
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