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People often overstate their positions in the heat of argument. But I think there is a different way of looking at it.
Originally Posted by SkateFiguring
(a) Judges like Chan's skating.
(b) They give him high marks for it.
(c) The IJS is structured in such a way that it is possible for a skater to win even with a fall or two.
I do not think it is disrespectful to offer the opinion that Patrick is way ahead of anyone else and (insofar as we can predict the future) is the current front-runner leading up to the next Olympics. I also think it is a legitimate view (as is the view to the contrary) that the international judges are so smitten with Patrick's skating that they tend to discount his mistakes more than for skaters of lesser talent and reputation. (Hey, look at all those 6.0s that Michelle got, when she deserved only a 5.9 . )
That is a far cry from charging that Skate Canada officials are bribing judges and making nefarious back room deals. (We have come to expect a certain amount of lobbying and cheerleading.)
If you read what skateluvr actually said, it was
Scores seem to be inflated across the board at Worlds. I suppose it it because the ISU wants to show the world how wonderful their champions are. Worlds being the last event of the year, there is nothing to save the record scores for. Skateluvr is saying that everybody gets higher scores at Worlds. If Patrick skates 290, at Worlds he will get 300.
Originally Posted by skateluvr
Is Patrick picked on more than other skaters? Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown.
As for pangandtongfan, he likes to state his views in a challenging and provocative way. *shrugs* OK.
This assumes that the gold medal awarded to S and P in 2002 is considered legitimate.
Of course, it was legitimate!
Originally Posted by jenaj
However, personally, I'd rather ISU left it alone and didn't do such eye-popping extreme thing. I thought it was over. S and P thought it was over. Many thought it was over despite the complains. Then they were exchanged to gold from silver. ISU blew up the scandal bigger than it has been. JMO.
Last edited by Bluebonnet; 01-30-2012 at 11:40 AM.
Canada already had a gold medal in pairs before Sale & Pelletier, the great Wagner & Paul in 1960. Sale & Pelletier farcial media gifted gift is the gold that rightfully should have gone to Dafoe & Bowden who were truly robbed in 1956, not just artifically so like the overrated Sale & Pelletier who were in fact gifted numerous titles in their career. All that said I was glad in a sense they were given their farce double gold, as unfair as that was to the exquisite and many times screwed over by the S&P hype machine from 2000-2002 Elena and Anton. It meant they got the heck out of Olympic style competition and I didnt have to watch Love Story for the 1000th time *gag me already*. Although watching them get their butt kicked by Shen & Zhou and Totmianina & Marinin under COP where the 10-15 point gap they would regularly give up with Jamies comical solo jumps, would have been fun as well.
Last edited by pangtongfan; 01-30-2012 at 01:29 PM.
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So many countries with a gold medal in all but one discipline:
Then those with golds in two disciplines:
Ukraine (is it OK to count Petrenko's 92 win as Ukraine?)
Thanks, that is is what I was curious about. So of those countries you listed it looks like Russia could join Canada and become the 2nd contender to have won Olympic Gold in all 4 disciplines in 2014. They do have a chance at ladies gold in Sochi.
Originally Posted by blue dog
I believe Germany is missing the dance gold which will never happen in Sochi. I believe for Austria it is also dance gold, which likewise will never happen in Sochi. Great Britian's missing gold is in pairs which will probably never happen as they dont even seem to bother try developing half decent pairs ever, even during their tour de force days.
U.S could add a dance gold which would put them 3/4s of the way there. The pairs gold seems a long way off, wont happen in Sochi, that is for sure.
Sweden has gold in ladies and mens right? Anyway they at present time are not a force.
Ukraine does not seem to be developing any top skaters at the moment, and never produced ones that came close to the top in pairs and dance.
I believe France has pairs and dance gold, but not ladies or men. They have some good men but are a long way from building an Olympic Champion as Joubert's time has clearly passed and Amodio is not going to attain such heights. Their womens program seems to be a disaester for now.
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