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For the sake of argument, what you said is absolutely true. What about the other criteria of the presentation score, which there 4 other equivalent in weight to Interpretation? Should we ignore them in favor of Interpretation?
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Universal Sports break down the scores as such: Technical Elements, Presentation Score, Deductions, and Short Program. It is a decision made in advance and likely through a discussion among commentators, a decision of dumbing down to the level of the casual viewers. So calling PCS "presentation" mark does not prove his (Peter Carruthers?) failure to adapt to the new CoP era.
It is not incorrect to call the 2nd mark, "Presentation score". That said, Peter could have given a more elaborate commentary to support his position and educate his audience at the same time, which he failed to do and instead, found himself speechless because he got it so wrong at the end.
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I think he's third. I hope he'll be first when it's all said and done; anyone who can make me sit through Blues for Klook and even like it deserves respect
I considered ignoring this, but it needs to be addressed.
Seniorita is quite possibly the nicest person I have met in my years as a skating fan. She is super-friendly to other fans and open-minded about skaters who aren't her favorites, and doesn't expect everyone to like her favorites; I know this from personal experience. If you can't get along with her, I suggest you look to your own behavior and the language you use. Or utilize the ignore button for everyone who doesn't agree with everything you write.
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1. All the judges gave Chan a -3 for that quad. Clearly, they thought it was a fall. Yes, I'm aware that you can get -3 without a fall, but to get straight -3s without a fall is unheard of. Hell, Chan doesn't always get straight -3s even when he does fall. I think he deserved the -1 fall deduction. I've seen lighter slips nailed, and to not nail Chan definitely will add fuel to the fire for the ABC brigade.
2. I don't think he was that tight, seniorita, but I definitely think he was lesser than he's been with the rest of the elements. Less playful during the footwork, I felt.
3. IMO, Dai's PCS > Chan's PCS at this competition. Not hugely, necessarily - the technical side of PCS tends to favour Chan and Chan's TES should be ahead of Dai's so Chan should be ahead anyway - but I felt that Dai ticked the PCS boxes better than Chan here.
2. I don't think he was that tight, seniorita, but I definitely think he was lesser than he's been with the rest of the elements. Less playful during the footwork, I felt.
3. IMO, Dai's PCS > Chan's PCS at this competition. Not hugely, necessarily - the technical side of PCS tends to favour Chan and Chan's TES should be ahead of Dai's so Chan should be ahead anyway - but I felt that Dai ticked the PCS boxes better than Chan here.
Don´t be upset, Seniorita is smart enough to ignore wallylutz comments, everybody knows his/her behaviour towards skater he/she dislikes and people who don´t share his/her opinions.
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That's a good way to say it. :thumbsup:
Thank you, Buttercup, for standing up for Seniorita. I love you both.
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To me, he fell. But I would not go so far as to claim it corrupt judging. It was not a clear-cut butt-on-ice fall, and so I can accept a certain degree of subjectivity. But again, I would call it a fall if I were a judge. Anyway, Valentine's Day is coming. Perhaps the technical panel is in a love fest just as I am in a loving mood.
The technical panel and the judges are having an eternal Valentine's Day with Chan!Anyway, Valentine's Day is coming. Perhaps the technical panel is in a love fest just as I am in a loving mood.
I thought the judges were stingy. Chan and Dai's gap should have been wider. Chan skated everything very well except the touch down. Meanwhile, Dai's quad was UR, and also on his butt.
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The second jump looked just slightly under-rotated to me, less than half a quarter (http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzUwOTgyMzgw.html#t=05m00s).
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It's funny that the people who kept saying Chan's 4 falls, 6 falls or 10 falls, still believe he falls when the judges didn't think so. LOL
What should we do with all these corrupted judges!!!
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