although I agree with you, NHK and Cup of Russia has the least inflated scores
I am actually amazed how scores even with the Japanese and Russian Nationals are almost the same in International results not that much inflated
Mao's, B/L Pluschenko at euros , ice dance etc.
I am so over the moon for Ashley, I don't think Mao is in any trouble of losing the World Title to her through politics or any other such nonsense. It's not like Ashley is a judges favorite now or ever. Ashley's worked hard to get to where she is, and it's starting to -finally- pay off. Mao was beautiful on the ice, and I wouldn't have complained if she won. It could've gone either way. Ashley held my attention more/longer than Mao did, but I think that's more the music (Mao's was too quiet for night time lol).
Ashley will still have to skate lights out to get ON THE PODIUM, and we know how she can psych herself up so much that she flops... I'm hoping that doesn't happen (she's in a tough spot, if she doesn't podium will be all over her for not making it, and if she DOES then she'll have insane pressure next year that she may not be ready for and she'll flop then and people will be all over her), but it's a possibility. No need to hurl insults at a skater or fans because she happened to pull it all together. Don't feel threatened for the big prize... it's a new day a month away.
ashley did SO beautifully. i've never been a big fan of hers but i think she's starting to win me over. she took total command of that program. i just hope she is able to carry this momentum not only into worlds, but into next season. alissa did absolutley wonderful, even better than ashley IMO in her first season with new coaches, then the second season was a little more rough. IMO they are both medal contenders and if both skate well are completely capable of getting 3 spots back. they are the best shots out of the US ladies at worlds right now so i'm glad they both made it. it will be interesting to see what will happen with US ladies now...ashley's back on, alissa is still fighting but who knows when she will retire, caroline making more and more improvements, agnes hopefully getting more consistent, the thought of rachael and mirai retiring, or both of them making a change/comeback, gracie gold most likely going senior next year, and who knows how much the other current juniors will improve over the next few years. i'm excited
High altitude affects different people differently so it's hard to project the results here to normal events. (There is some discussion of this in the Men's LP thread.)
Obviously Ashley and Caroline demonstrated what they are capable of. But some simply couldn't perform anywhere close to their usual standard.
I haven't been able to watch but .... Yey for Ashley and Caroline!!!!!!!! To be honest, it would have been upsetting if at least one of the Americans hadn't medaled at this event, given that their only real competition was Mao and Murakami, who hasn't been up to her highest standards this season ... but to have Ashley win and Caroline win the bronze! What a treat. After so many bad seasons I wouldn't have predicted that Caroline would have done so well this season and I am so happy for her. I am just thrilled that her hard work and perserverence was worth it. And Ashley! Finally national champion and now 4CC champion to boot. I think Ashely will do well at worlds. I know she will be nervous but on the other hand, she's not REALLY a top favorite for medals. She'll go in as another medal possibility but not a favorite. I think there will be more pressure on Mao and Carolina and even Alissa. People won't know what to expect of Ashely, given that it's her first worlds since 2008 and that could be to her advantage. I hope so anyway. I hope she doesn't worry TOO much about the getting the third spot back and remembers to enjoy herself at worlds and just the fact that she made the team and is there as the American champion. She seem to really like her Swan program, too, so that is another good thing.
I ve got a naive question but since I dont know the answer, why did they hold an event in a place where it might cause problems for the majority of athletes, cause all I ve been reading the last week is altitude affecting their health or at least performances, and they all look exhausted the least, wasnt there any other arena in the world closer to sea level to hold 4CC ? I mean it is normal they wont always compete in the same circumstances they are mostly trained but from all competitions this is the first time I m reading so much worrying choice of a place.
This was in response to the post by NotAnybody'sMother that the Japanese Federation was not in a position to apply any political clout to affect the outcome of this contest. And perhaps this played a role in placing the U.S. skater, Wagner, ahead of Asada.
My point was that politics is only politics, but money is money. Overall, the ISU is not going to stack the deck against Japanese skaters just because some other federation has political pull.
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They've used the area for skating for years... as I said previously I don't think the number of medical emergencies really warrants a ban on use of the facilities for competition.
The USFSA is having a hard time finding anyone willing to host their major events, like Skate America and U.S. Nationals because the local hosting organization is likely to lose money.
For the 2010 U.S. Championships held in Spokane, even though attendance was good the local organizers still had to scramble to get the money together. The state government had pledged to give them $50,000, but were forced to renege on their promise because the State of Washington did not have any money either. (A new state legislature came into power that year and the new legislators weren't figure skating fans. )
Yey, just watched Ashley's SP and FS on Youtube. What great skates for her. Especially the FS, she was clearly in the moment. We've rarely seen Ashley on top but she seems to thrive on it - not one of those skaters who gets flustered by finding herself national champ or 4CC champ but one of the those skaters who embraces it and goes with it. She's not perfect but she's fierce.