Firstly, Sui/Han deserved to win. By including those high base value elements (which are actually undervaluled in pairs skating, I feel), they start with such sky high base value that it would take a poor skate from them AND a great skate from someone else to win. That didn't happen.
Secondly, that they deserved to win doesn't mean they weren't overscored, or that overscoring doesn't matter.
Here's the criteria for Skating Skills
a) Outside the elements, it's all two foot skating. Very much stroke, stroke, stroke
b) They're quick, but it's not effortless. It's the same thing Murakami struggled with and why her SS aren't as high as they could be even though she's fast, so you don't have that glide, that smoothness, that precision, that high skating skill technicians are able to get.
c) There's very little in the way of great edge control that again, we see in the top teams (not here, but in general)
So already, out of the seven criteria, they lack a strong hold with four of them. They did well in the multi-directional skating and showed a variety of speed well, and seemed pretty equal to me. To me, that's around a six. What do you think, skateflower?
All of those users who are saying that S/H's skating skills are pretty good and they have the power and speed, do you not know the difference between nice, controlled speed and hectic speed? When you see a top class skater, they do everything with speed and power but it is clean and neat. They are not a complete mess on the ice. With S/H, they are quick... OOOOKKKKKK. But it seems more like they are using speed to cover up the fact that their skating and elements are not pretty at all. Of course it takes much more of an effort and maturity to skate to a slower piece and show off your lines and your carriage.
Or the fact that B/L got 63 for pcs while S/H got 59? I am hoping this is just because four continents over inflates marks because they are indeed ridiculous. S/H should get AT LEAST 7 points lower in pcs than B/L. Or how about we just put them ahead of S/S and V/T at worlds. After all, their circus tricks are way superior. The 3 flip is so much better than S/S. Their quad twist and salchow are completely clean. The jumps were very well executed (even though it looked like Sui was using all her energy to just be able to get in the air with that 3T-2T-2T.
B/L, again? Are you related to them or something? How about B should retire because she's stick on ice and probably going to break her twiggy legs anytime soon in one of these throws. This girl doesn't eat in order for L to throw her successfully? Everytime I look at B/L, she makes me sick.
They are the most boring pair around. It's a joke their PCS is 63. Should be 53 when S/H got 59.
You seem to passionately hate B/L, which is fine. But at least when I comment on S/H, I do not comment on her size, weight, or legs. Just her skating. Also, your word choice is quite unintelligent- "gross", "sick", ugly". I do not go around calling Rachael Flatt that. You know why? Because it's wrong. I will further ignore your hateful, unnecessary, and insulting comments.
Let me remind you what you called S/H's elements "circus tricks"
How sweet! How intelligent! How insulting, and very thinly veiled at that.
B/L PCS is a joke. Their P/E should be in the 4s. Definitely should be lower than most junior teams competing.
Their CH is a snoozefest and should be lower than most Jr.
Unless they're INterpreting counting sheep, there's no reason why their IN is that high.
If you're related to B/L in anyway, then it's ok. Mother crow thinks her baby crows are the blackest, we get it.
Let me remind you what you called S/H's elements "circus tricks"
How sweet! How intelligent! How insulting, and very thinly veiled at that.
B/L PCS is a joke. Their P/E should be in the 4s. Definitely should be lower than most junior teams competing.
Their CH is a snoozefest and should be lower than most Jr.
Unless they're INterpreting counting sheep, there's no reason why their IN is that high.
If you're related to B/L in anyway, then it's ok. Mother crow thinks her baby crows are the blackest, we get it.
Yes, Bazarova is my uncle and Larionov is my aunt twice removed.
Good for you, FlattFan. I hope you feel better.
Sui/Han deserved to win but they didn't deserve nearly as much credit as they got:
1.) The Quad Salchow was overscored. She has already done a full turn by the time he releases her and it was a blatantly two-footed landing. Not one of the biggest throws out there either, for modern pairs skating.
2.) The side-by-side 3Toe-2Toe-2Toe was a disgrace. First of all, both of her 2Toe's were underrotated and didn't get called. Second of all, this should have been -2 GOE across the board for such small, shaky jumps and horrendous destruction of unison.
3.) The Quad Twist again featured her doing a full turn before he fully releases and then she lands on his shoulder, almost like a sack of potatoes. One judge thought that was worthy of +3 GOE.
4.) The side-by-side spin lost unison and became overly separated. Some judges think that is worthy of a +2 GOE. It should have been -1.
5.) She very noticeably loses balance and position on the first lift but there is no penalty, just +GOE yet again in fact.
6.) Positive GOE across the board for the 2Axels, in which she does a tiny jump and he lands on the wrong edge.
7.) She is too far up from the ice on the death spiral and this move features the typical loss of speed and flow from the change-of-hand. Almost every judge gives it +2 GOE.
8.) Their throw Triple Flip was nice, but +3 GOE from almost every judge? So, this was as good of a throw as Savchenko/Swolkowy at their best? I don't buy it.
If you change those grades to what I feel is appropriate, Sui/Han were overscored in the tech mark by 9 points.