I really and truly am not a Patrick-Hater. But maybe there is a reason why the concept of Chanflation exists:
OMG What is this? Am I supposed to take this seriously? Mao's one clearly landing on 1/4 borderline with two-foot which made tech panel call underrotation, and Chan landing backwards, I'd say no short of revolution, but if to be strict, it's a barely rotated but "rotated" jump.
Last edited by l'etoile; 02-16-2012 at 07:56 AM.
So you know what that disparity (between what you see and what I see) proves? It means that even counting no. of revolution is SUBJECTIVE. Maybe ISU should admit it. Figure skating can't be a sport if there can be no objective method of determining what's what.
Last edited by l'etoile; 02-16-2012 at 08:43 AM. Reason: to add quotation
Usually a heavy two foot landing is called at least "<" because the freefoot typically hits at the same time as the skating foot and it is more than 90 degrees under rotated.
Lots of hot air. Chan's 3Axel was clearly past the 1/4 turn mark. Mao's 3Axel was slightly short of the 1/4 turn mark.
But BoP, when people need slo mo to see this and constant explanation from skaters, you know it is way too complicated to attract many fans. It is indeed the scoring system that could be ouverhauled and must be simplified, as that is one reason, maybe not the biggest, for the decline in TV viewership. Yes, this is just an elite sport in North America, now. This artistic sport is valued more in Russia and Asia for many reasons. The TV programming, is awful here, and cable is worse. We are not sseeing any 'Great performances" outside of PBS which ironically is viewer supported, and the last bastion of taste and intelligence on can find on TV in America. The PChan fan fest thread says it takes 250,000 to get all the everything Pat needs to be a World champion and stay there. This is rediculous. It has become a sport of rich kids, and the smaller the better.
Without a female star, there really is very interest in skating, and it is turning into a very small club of top skaters, coaches, judges, fans who can afford to travel to big championships. We are a country ready to destroy programs that are keeping sick/elderly alive. That I know a lot about. Russia, China seem to have the money now to have the state underwrite the sport and olympic medals mean more to them than us, to the point of cheating. The sport has moved largely to Asia, and Asian skaters have the advantage size wise no matter whom they skate for. So USA can feel proud of ice dance and that appears to be it.
Evan did not get much ride out of that gold medal with endorsements, and I don't get why. He is very marketable and America watches DWTS. I find it sad a nice kid can't recoup some of his parents money. Everyone knows Johnny Weir though, and he is doing quite well after years of shameless at times self promotion.
It is much sadder to see empty factories and my city decay because our very life- manufacturing jobs for the middle class-have been sold out from under us by our millionaire congress.
While it is sad we cannot see these great competitions on NBC, we have seen TV degenerate into dumbed down reality trivia and tabloid journalism. As long as the internet remains free and anonymous, we can still show good figure skating, and other dying art forms, to the masses. If through dumb luck we get a couple great rivals al la Kwan? Lipinski or Huhes, or Cohen, we will certainly get some TV coverage back, but not until we have great ladies again who are consistent winners. We can dream. So much for my frustrated rant about the decline of this country and the reverence for good music, good art, good programming, libraries with recent books, everything that made this country a great democracy is lost.
If every FS fan wrote to NBC or ESPN and begged for coverage like 10 years ago, it would not matter, because our fan base has moved to Asia with the rise of Yuna, Mao, Dai, Shizuka, HAnyu, Nan Song.
And the best in North America are children of Asian emigies. I don't think we will ever see another Debi Thomas, or Rudi Galindo or even (for better or worse) a Tonya Harding who honed her skills when young at a mall rink. Opportunity shrinks across every state. It is frightening, not just sad to see what North America has allowed.
Last edited by skateluvr; 02-21-2012 at 12:56 AM.
I hear you, skateluvr!
I was very sad that Evan didn't get any mileage out of his OGM. He seems like a decent guy.
Like you, I don't understand why someone can't make the time to feature skating on TV a bit more. They have so much wrestling--every day, it seems. Can't they spare two hours a week for skating?
As far as the factories, that is a complete tragedy. What shortsighted impulse led corporate leaders to send their facilities offshore, when the logical assumption would be that American workers could no longer afford to buy their products? Idiocy. Henry Ford understood that if he priced his cars to sell to assembly line workers and people like that, he would be successful beyond the dreams of avarice. Modern corporations have settled merely for the dreams of avarice, I guess. But there are a few good signs on the horizon. I read that some factories are reviving. Perhaps more of this will happen.
Back to skating: if Asians because of their size and build have an advantage in singles skating (or at least ladies' singles), then the U.S. and Canada still have a built-in advantage, because we are both countries of immigrants. Americans and Canadians come from everywhere, including just about every country in Asia. But we've seen that good skaters and even good jumpers can have other body types, as Irina Slutskaya certainly proves. So we don't need to take the narrow view, and indeed we shouldn't. As you say, we can still dream of American skating glory. Don't give up now!