04-30-2012, 07:01 AM
05-01-2012, 12:22 PM
Prince Ice World show in Yokohama
I went on 30th to both shows. Prince Ice World corps de ballet was actually quite good. Not just luxury costumes but also the quality of skating. Many guys landed triples and Nanri (? not sure about his name)- a 3A. Honda also didn't play safe and showed his abilities. British acrobats didn't impress me much. They did lifts and spinning lifts that many pairs can do now in competitions. But pairs can also do other stuff, like jumps, spins, footwork, etc. Well, in Japan there are simply no pairs, so acrobats were more or less on topic. On average competitive Japanese skaters looked a tiny bit fresher in the morning show, probably because it's still tough to skate two shows a day. Akiko skated tango in the morning and her WTT gala EX in the afternoon. She did what she planned without super mistakes. Kanako skated her quicksteps EX in the morning where she landed 3T-3T and her WTT gala EX in the afternoon. Her skating is quite rushy, even Liza looked more feminine in her tango. In the second finale she played a joke and went for 3S+ a bunch of doubles, so- a 5-jump combo, and she fell on the last 5th loop. Never mind, everybody laughed. I saw her coach Yamada near the arena and later inside. Probably it's because Kanako is still young and needs a coach support even in shows. Or maybe Machiko was simply having a good time in the arena. Shizuka was usual- an ice princess left and right, unlikely I will ever see another image of her in the future. Machida skated his samurai stuff, landed a 3A and other triples. Kozuka also skated his Cello in both shows. His jumps were more solid and confident than at WTT or Worlds. When he was doing an eagle, he winked to the audience that he was passing by. Lol. In both finale he tried a quad, the first one he fell heavily, the second- landed two-footed. Daisuke skated Mambo in the morning show. He landed two combos 3L-3T and 3F-3T plus and amazing 3A. In a finale he landed an iron 4T, clean and fair. In the afternoon show he skated his new EX "Sweat". It was definitely inspired by Joubert and Amodio WTT gala stuff, with slutty crotch moves, seductive steps and a ridden up T-shirt that exposed Dai's tummy and underwear. No way you'll see it on J-TV news clip. Lucky me I saw it live. But what the hell. It's almost summer now. Nobody wants to be serious in summer. His new EX wasn't downloaded with super elements like a quad or 3A, but the purpose of that EX was different a priori. Maybe it was created by Kenji overnight specially for PIW shows only. In a finale he too tried a quad, but unlike in the morning show it wasn't super clean- step out and two hands on the ice. After the show skaters had time with fans. I asked Kozuka who he winked to when he was doing an eagle and he said- to me. The way how fast he found the answer that I obviously asked for means he knows how to do both- how to wink and how to flirt. What else a 23yo man is for. Good work, loverboy! I first didn't know what to say to Daisuke. That thought that he was the true World champion was for weeks in my head. But I think Dai was hurt in Nice and I didn't want to bring that negative memory in that PIW festive event. On the other hand, how can any of us know for sure what he thinks or feels. Maybe he wants to hear that he was the true champion in Nice. One thing to know it or read about it in media or on message boards. Another thing is to hear it live and straight to your face from a person. Guess what. When the time came up, my subconscious took the lead. I assumed the authorty to speak from an international community and, unlike with Kozuka, I switched into English and said "Daisuke, we love you. You are the true World champion." ... And I felt a relief and pride that I said what I wanted because I said the truth and voiced the opinion shared by so many people. At first he looked slightly surprised that someone addressed to him in English in that 99.999% Japanese Skate Center. He listened, then smiled when I finished, said "arigato gozaimasu" and shook my hand. He had a very warm hand. A 0.00001 of a second later I took his pic. The way how happy he looks assured me that he was glad to hear what I said: http://s014.radikal.ru/i327/1205/08/9a9747186e63.jpg Here's more pics from PIW: www.twitpic.com/photos/00LT and a fanvideo: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqp9Ln1CoGE
I'll be in Shin-Yokohama on Thursday and Friday too. I'll come up with the updates then.
05-01-2012, 02:16 PM
Thanks so much for the description of the show, Let's Talk. How nice that you got to give him that vote of confidence right out loud. I think you delivered in exactly the right way, in English so it was somehow a bit more private, and supportive rather than defensive, to take the sting out of it. He's lucky to have fans like you (and the rest of us!), and we're lucky to have a skater like him to be fans of.
Deedee, that video is scrumptious. It will tide us over until next season. I hope you and Let's Talk get to see Daisuke skate over the summer, and that you report to us about it!
On another thread, we learn that Japan's Prime Minister is attending a dinner in his honor given by Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, and the Shibutanis are being invited. One poster comments, "Do you think the prime minister is a skating fan?" When I think of the extraordinary level of skating in Japan right now, I'd be astonished if he isn't a fan.
05-02-2012, 09:00 AM
let's talk sounds like a great show and glad you got to speak your mind mind to Dai, thanks for the report.
Thanks for the photos and fan video!
05-02-2012, 12:27 PM
Thank you so much for your report on the PIW show into such details, let's talk!
Thank you also the lovely photos and vid link.
Hope you will have a great time again at Shin-Yokohama tomorrow and Friday!
05-04-2012, 01:39 PM
I know I'm not a part of this long conversation, but I couldn't not comment on a thread dedicated to Daisuke and fans. First of all, I wanted to say thanks to all of you who translated articles and things from Daisuke! I really wish I could speak Japanese so I could learn more things about him, but I can't, so thank you! Daisuke's my favorite skater and such a sweet person, also. Every program he does I end up loving, whether I like the music or not. Like "The Crisis" isn't very exciting music, but just the way Daisuke skates it makes it a masterpiece, because he feels the music in his soul. I'd love to see someone like Patrick Chan skate that program without putting me to sleep. And nothing against Patrick Chan, although he's not one of my personal favorites. He just doesn't have that on-ice charisma, that 'it factor', that draws people in like Daisuke does. It's like Daisuke and music are made for each other.
I, also, am very nervous/worried for Daisuke in Sochi. (Nervous already, and it's not for two years!) He wants it so bad, but it's going to be so hard for him to even medal. He always says he just wants to skate his best and do what he can, but you know he wants to win, or at least get a medal. I'll be heartbroken for him if he doesn't. I just hope he can stay at the top for two more years. He's getting older, but he's not the oldest out there; though, the competition will be tough. Evan Lysacek's coming back, and though I haven't seen him skate in a while, as the defending Olympic Champion, you'd expect him to be on the podium. Then there's Plushenko returning (again), and this time he'll have some home-country advantage, so I'd think he'd be on the podium, too. At this point, the way Patrick Chan's been winning everything, it seems like he'd be on the podium. (Although after losing to Dai at WTT and splitting up with his coach, maybe he won't be quite as dominant next season? Maybe?) Then you've got Yuzuru Hanyu who, if he keeps it up, could be a real threat. Artur Gachinski, too, even though he had a terrible season, might be able to come back in time for a home Olympics. So Daisuke's got to try to find a way to squeeze in there. Though, like someone mentioned, Olympic Champion or not, he's still one of the greatest skaters. And if Dai does win, (which, though I hate saying it, seems unlikely even though I'm determined to remain positive) I don't know what I'd do - freak out, probably. Probably a mixture of crying, jumping and screaming. He so deserves to be Olympic Champion. I can't wait to see his programs for next season! I wonder when we'll hear what they are?
His programs at Worlds this year were amazing! Although, the first time I watched his free skate I was so nervous I couldn't even enjoy it. I was holding my breath at every jump, praying he would land it. I was so thrilled he skated clean! And then when I watched it again, I was able to enjoy his wonderful performance skills that I think should have earned higher PCS. Even though he didn't win gold, I was happy for him. His skates will be the ones I remember and watch over and over (and Yuzuru's), not Patrick's. Good job, Dai!
Oh, and I really, really want to see his new Snoop Dogg EX! Hope it will be on YouTube soon!
05-04-2012, 03:52 PM
Corps de ballet in PIW was keeping on showing their tricks. That Nanri dude landed successfully 3A in finales as a matter of fact, he also did 3t-3t combo, and some other male skaters did triples too. How many ice skating shows you know where a corp de ballet skater, without even a solo number, lands 3A? Not many. Kobayashi was a true Team Spirit leader and a popular guy. Honda was Honda with all his masculinity style of J-Yag in full set. Shizuka was busy with parading her dresses one after another, while her skating was the same as for the last 6 years: 3S, a 2A-3T combo, a spin, ina bauer, end. Lovely and cute but when you watch the same stuff for 6 years, it can bore you. Akiko was almost always clean but she didn't challenge super elements like Kanako. Murakami had at least one combo in each program, either 3T-3T, or 3S-2L-2L. In the finale Friday morning she landed a 7-jump combo just for a joke but the last loop was two-footed, so she stopped. Still her presentation skills are quite poor, and her entrance to the jumps is not beautiful at all. I saw Miki in the backstage but she didn't take part in a show. Machida was always clean in all jumps, including 3A (but he made mistake in a finale yesterday). He has a good show feeling and great contact with the audience. It was especially important on the last two days when Mao and Kozuka was not around, so Machida had to take the lead, after Takahashi of course. On Thursday Dai did the morning mambo with 3F-3T, 3A, 3L-3T with no problem. In a finale the quad was two-footed. In "Sweat" in the afternoon 3A had a step-out, as well as later a quad in a finale. On Friday Dai rocked. Mambo was with three combos: 3F-3T, 3A-3T, 3Lutz-3T plus the great quad in a finale. The "Sweat" had 3F, 3A, 3Fl, then a quad in a finale. As I mentioned the new EX is not overoaded with super combos. Because it was created specially for summer shows I believe, with all that take-it-easy-and-enjoy attitude. I think he will show it in China, where I hope the rules are not so strict, so you guys might see the new EX on youtube. I wanted to wish him to wim the gold in Sochi, but he interrupted me after the phrase "kin medaru" and said "Gambarimasu!": http://i075.radikal.ru/1205/b0/f241a4611ade.jpg What a great answer to Chantrolls' rants that Dai's mindset is set for silver. I also wished him to enjoy the summer and have a nice holiday. There won't be any FS shows for a while in Tokyo and around. But we all deserve some rest. Otsukaresama.
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05-04-2012, 05:37 PM
Trixie Schuba's biggest fan!
I miss Yasuharu Nanri! Is he still competing, or has he gone completely professional?
Originally Posted by let`s talk
05-05-2012, 01:50 AM
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05-05-2012, 06:17 AM
So you see Evan as medal contender, but not Dai?
Originally Posted by Butterscotch17
I think that Dai has as high chances for OGM as Patrick.
Bronze is to so called "next generation".
I`m glad if Evan is really back. Hopefully current OGM will prevent judges from being Chan-fluented again.
Judges` determination to make Patrick champion again no matter what, in fact led to antipathy.
Patrick wasn`t dominant, but his scores were. (Plushenko was dominant skater, because he won without falling each competition).
Some "Oh, Patrick was booed by French crowd, or japanese" is really laughable. French didn`t booed Yuzuru that took away possible Joubert`s bronze. As for Japanese, their inteligence is well-known, they can`t act like this.
It was a real disservice from judges to Patrick, such a bitter victory I didn`t see.
05-05-2012, 06:28 AM
let`s talk, you didn`t expect from Shizuka 3-3 combos, do you?
Originally Posted by let`s talk
Even 2A-3T is good for skater retired 6 years ago.
For me she is iconic skater, her grace and elegance is unparalleled. She`s a treasure of FS.
Though I understand your getting bored from her programs.
05-05-2012, 09:20 AM
Thanks for your latest report let's talk. Nice to hear about the other skaters and of
05-05-2012, 11:11 PM
Might be a bit late to say, but 'a hearty welcome' to the GS Forum from me, too, Butterscotch17! and thank you so much for your lovely post on Daisuke!
Originally Posted by Butterscotch17
Many, me included of course, agree with you about Dai, his skating, and his sweet personality.
Daisuke just grabs my heart and soul like no one else can! One thing of out many I love about his skating is, he skates his programs with all of his energy, heart and soul everytime he goes out to the ice, whether or not it's a big competition. So it looks to me a different performance each time out. I can see his take on his feeling for the music. It gives me different impression on his program, I find new things in his skating and enjoy it each time, even though he skates to the same music with almost the same choreography throughout the year. In performance-wise, every time different and never be the same program for me! My English is not enough to express my feeling well, but we say it in Japanese '一期一会 (ichigo ichie)'; 'One encounter is one and only: so precious, there won't be next one, never be the same even if so.' Hope my English makes sense to you.
As for your concern/worry for Dai in Sochi, a lot of us share your feelings, too. But don't worry too much, I would say.
Upon his disappointing performance at 2011 Moscow Worlds, he announced his intention to continue three more seoson until Sochi Olympics. Daisuke himself admitted at that time, knowing he was behind of Patrick, Takahiko and/or Artur in TES-wise, that he was not sure if future Dai would get on the podium in Sochi, or even he could make the national team considering the depth in Japanese Mens field...But at the same time, he knew he was getting back his strength on his injured knee gradually, so that it would get much better in the near future and he wanted to give another try. He is a competitive skater after all. It's his choice to make. Figure skating is a sport, an Olympic sport. OGM is a dream and ultimate goal for every athelets in the world. As one of his big fans, what I can do is to respect his decision and root for him, and I will root for him with all of my heart. The best man wins in 2014, whether it will be Evgeni, Patrick, Evan, Dai or younger one like Yuzuru, nobody, including skating god , knows yet. If it's Dai, we will do a happy dance together, if it's not him unfortunately, we will thank Dai for many great performances full of his heart and soul anyway, just like we are doing right now.
05-06-2012, 06:05 AM
A peson in Daisuke's fan forum added English subtitles to this short but super wonderful documentary about the resumption of his quad. Congratulations for getting back, Daisuke!! (And special thanks to the video maker.)
It was a tough road to overcome. I remember, I prepared myself to see the worst scenario back in the November 2008. But he came back! Now he is even stronger than he used to be. You are so brave, Daisuke.
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05-06-2012, 10:24 AM
I forgot to write this.... Thank you very very much for the PIW report, let's talk! I enjoyed a lot!!