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Daisuke Takahashi

demarinis5

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Thanks SF for linking the article. Great interview!

Well at least we know for sure that he will be using Lori since he mentioned her in the Chinese interview.
 

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"I hated waking up very early in the morning! We had to spend so much time to practice Compulsory, back then..." A competiton back then was formed with Compulsory which required to draw figures on the ice (60%) and with Free skate (40%). If you were to be far behind with Compulsory, you would never end up winning overall, regardless how strong you could come back in the Free.

Waking up early she got on a train around 5am and practiced Compulsory in the morning. After school each day, she went back to her rink and resumed evening trainings until 9pm. At age 12, she switched to Tetsutaro Tanaka, one of the top coaches. Her life was eventually filled with nothing but skating. She won the ladies title of National Junior Championship. Her best record at the Senior Nats was 6th place.
She also felt the trend in figure skating was changing. It became the talk of the whole world if a a female skater landed a triple jump. Same in Japan; skaters with harder jumps started winning competitions. Nagamitsu as a competitive skater was well known for her superior skating skills but weaker in jumps. Then there came a big change in rules: the introduction of Short program from 1972-73 season. They started marking placements for singles through Compulsory, Short program and Free skate, so that skaters were required to put more weights on jumps. At that point Nagamitsu became the least hesitant to retire from competitive skating.

On her last season as an eligible skater, Japan hosted the Winter Olympic Games in Sapporo in February 1972. "My grandmother had planned and saved some money to buy me a beautiful Kimono to celebrate my becoming 20 years old, but I somehow wheedled her to give me that money in cash."
She traveled to Sapporo and attended every sessions of practice and competitions of figure skating from the Day 1. That was her very first encounter with any sort of international competitions live in her whole life. She was delighted and excited to see the world's top skaters, including Janet Lynn, of course, who became the focus of public attention, and so to speak the biggest idol of the event throughout Japan. However, the skater who caught her notice and attracted the most was Toller Cranston of Canada who only placed 9th at the Mens discipline. Why?
"He danced!, in spite of being a male single skater..." she simply answered. The average male skaters back then were doing less choreo by occasionally lifting up and down their arms, only. Among them Cranston did dance and stood out to her. That encounter was the origin of Nagamitsu as a professional coach. Four years later (1976) Cranston won the Olympic Bronze Medal in Innsbruck, Austria. The trend of Mens figure skating proves she was right. A lot of male figure skaters, who were regarded as 'artists on ice', burst onto the scene after Cranston. Nagamitsu got foresight in every ways.
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That's how I felt when I saw Toller. I remember Dick Button saying in 1980 (comparing the elegant Robin Cousins to his rivals, principally Jan Hoffman of East Germany) that so many other men's arms moved "like windmills." Toller and John Curry changed what people thought that men's skating could achieve. It was as simple as that.
 

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There is always some humorous tone when she talks. The way Nagamitsu and Takahashi speak to each other often reminds me that of comedians.

But she admits that those who once were coached by her in the past probably could not believe that.
"I was such a messy, unreasonable coach when I was younger. My skaters used to be frozen up if they heard, say, the rustling sound of my coat..." Nagamitsu was such a young, determined coach full of passion, maybe too much passion and responsibility. If she did not like her skaters' behavior, she snapped and let them leave the ice and go home. "When I grew up as a skater, I was often told by my coach, 'cry while traning, and smile at competitions.' I simply followed that principle...but literally it was meant to be that if you train hard enough until you almost cry, it will make you smile at competitions, right? I tended to lose my temper with my skaters..." Nagamitsu recalls these days with embarrassment.

Nagamitsu faced one big turning point in her career as a coach in the 80's: an encounter with Mari Asanuma, a female single skater who later got to compete at the Worlds in 1991. 'Mari is the girl with enormous talents. Just obvious to everyone's eye. I can't destroy her talents.' she told herself. When Mari was in a bad mood and hit the ice, Nagamitsu tried hard to tolerate Asanuma, thinking 'she must be frustrated with herslf because of mistakes...' The former self of her would have probably lost her temper with her skater's bad attitude, but she somehow swallowed her words. "It was so hard for me to controll my anger of course, but I eventually learned how to be patient." That also helped Nagamitsu to be a keen observer to her skaters, their movements and their thoughts.

Mari was a great jumper. In order to highlight her ability and talent, Nagamitsu decided to outsource programs to a foreign choreographer, though it was unusual back then. To choose a music piece for a skater, to do its choreo, to teach every aspects of techniques in skating as needed, to take care of skater's physical and mental condition and such; these were part of the coach's job back then. But Nagamitsu had over 10 skaters, and realized she did not have enough time or eye to supervise all of them.

Years later when Nagamitsu started to train Takahashi, she put all these experiences, her heart and soul into him.
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There's an old saying that when the student is ready, the teacher comes along. Maybe in this case, it goes both ways. When the teacher was ready, the student came along. Daisuke is obviously the ideal student for Nagamitsu's aspirations and particular talents. Nice the way that worked out!
 

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There's an old saying that when the student is ready, the teacher comes along. Maybe in this case, it goes both ways. When the teacher was ready, the student came along. Daisuke is obviously the ideal student for Nagamitsu's aspirations and particular talents. Nice the way that worked out!

I agree with you.

And to the contrary, I have a mixed feeling concerning Mao.

Mao at age 15, she was a made-in-heaven like skater; floating on the ice effortlessly, airy jumps, popping energy which is typical of the youth and that angelic smile!...she was like a cotton candy on the blades, and her love and joy for skating clearly showed in her skating and on her face.

But once she was old enough to officially compete on the senior level, she appreared less enjoying of her skating, more tense, afraid of making any mistakes even before the actual competitions got started... It seemed to me that figure skating became more of the profession, the obligation, the burden sort of thing to Mao. (I feel the same way concerning YuNa. They were too young to shoulder these responsibilities, weren't they?) We got to see her smiles less and less.
It's been 6 seasons since then. While I appreciate Artunian and Tarasova for helping Mao technically, mentally and artistically to go up to the top, (the fact that she is already a 2-time world champion proves so :)), I am not sure if they were the ideal or adequate coaches. Mao has been always ready to meet ideal coaches since then, she hasn't met her any yet.

Mao has been adored so much by everyone around her since she was a small kid. But she was, and still is very shy in front of strangers, tending to shelter herself from th outside world. It takes time for her to understand people who were unknown to her before, get along well with them, and start trusting them. Mao resembles Daisuke for that matter.
It was good for Dai he met Mrs. Nagamitsu when he was very young, though. To the eye of Mrs. Nagamitsu, Dai was a nice kid from the beginning to behave well, respect elder people, and do whatever was told to do. But he sheltered himself in his own world and never revealed her his true feelings for a long time, Nagamitsu once said. They had no fights in those days, because they were still reserved with each other, you know. It took 3-4 years for him to start fully trusting his coach (and start fighting! ;)).

I sincerely hope The Satos are finally her ideal coaches whom Mao can trust, rely upon, and open her heart to, no matter what. :yes:
 
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In February 2002, Takahashi at age 15 won the very first Mens world junior title by a Japanese male single skater. Nagamitsu decided to take him abroad and journeyed around the world together to learn from the great mastery coaches. Because she knew he was so talented, probably too talented that she could not handle it by her own. She believed that, in order to fullfil his potential, it would be much better to leave him with the hands of world's top coaches who are experienced with deeper knowledge and more appropriate skills for training than herself.
"What is the most remarkable with Utako sensei is once she decides to leave something to someone, she leaves it to that person till the end. She never have a say, never interrupt and never take it back!", Takahashi agrees.
"Well, I won't leave anything to anybody just rondumly or blinldy, of course! But my policy is 'better leave it to its specialist.', you know." If she saw her boy was the least flexible so that he might risk getting injured himself, she instructed his conditioning trainer to do something to prevent that. As for harder jumps such as quads, which is the unknown area to her as she never tried those jumps herself, she contacted Takeshi Honda, who placed 4th at the Salt Lake City Olympics in 2002, and invietd him to join her team in Kansai University to help Takahashi. If she doubts whether she herslef fully understands all changes on rules, she right away calls Makoto Okazaki, who is one of the licensed ISU's technical specialists, and entrusts him to check levels for spins and steps.

"I thought it would be beneficial for Dai, too, if there are a couple of older guys (than him) around him, he can talk to one of them and get some advice, on and off ice, as needed." She is such kind of person who is the least conceited, knowing her own limitations as a coach, and who can properly deal with things depending on the circumstances.
As a result, she got to spend more time to observe her skater objectively; out of the rink and from the viewpoints of audience.

Another remarkable episode about her is she never visited Takahashi in the hospital who had surgery in his injured knee and was undergoing its rehab trainings for months. Takahashi once called her from the hospital, telling in a pessimistic tone of voice thru his cell phone, "I am not sure how much longer I can hold out with this...". She ignored his sentiment and replied with a small laugh, "Hum? you are not sure??" At the point when Takahashi actually did run away from the hospital and disappeared for days, she of course panicked. But she was so convinced that he would come back. 'Dai is such a boy with great sensitiveness. He senses it. He already knows what we want to tell him, without hearing any words from us...' She decided to wait for him, instead of searching for him everywhere.
"Utako sensei never scolded me, not once, even at times I did not get good results all these years. She always stayed by my side and encouraged me to do my best. My coach is the absolute being for me; I trust her more than I trust myself."

Takahashi also won the gold medal at the Worlds the next month (March 2010). The season has turned out to be the most successful for both of them.

The night before when they were ready to go back home finally, Nagamitsu slipped and fell in the bathroom at a hotel in Torino and broke her right arm. "I met with my misfortune here. Should be a sign of good fortunes in the future!", says with a laugh. Nagamitsu rather regards her injury as blessings from the God on the new chapter of her and her boy's long journey.
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demarinis5

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Deedee - I have enjoyed reading and learning about this remarkable woman and coach, I am sorry it is the end.

I appreciate and thank you for taking the time to translate and share with us.
 
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The last installment is just about the best, because it brings out both their personalities! I'm sorry it's the end of the article, but I'm sure I'll be going back and rereading, so the enjoyment will last. Thanks so much for all your work on this.

I agree with you about Mao, and like you I desperately hope that the Satos are her perfect coaches, as Nagamitsu is for Daisuke and Orser seems to have been for YuNa. Mao is such a treasure and a gift to skating, and I'd love to know that she's getting the most out of her experience as a skater. I love your description of her as cotton candy on the ice. It's true that lightness is one of her greatest characteristics. It's a trait that, even though I also love YuNa, I don't think YuNa has. Kim is smooth and powerful, but Mao seems to be in flight. Both of those ladies have faced unbelievable pressure in their skating careers, and they've done it with grace and effectiveness.
 

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There was a preamble before the interview that didn't enter the translation. There the author admires Dai's performanace at Worlds, how the audience cheered him and goes with the title in English "Heart and mind of gold." That was really something to see Dai not in just some sport magazine but in Numero. Among Cartier, LV, Dior, Gucci, Tasaki, etc., ads, as well as Kitano exhibition, Botanical sculpture, Chanel Classic revisited, Mizuma Art Gallery stuff and others. Dai there, in that avant-garde worlds of fashion, art and luxury, as a brand of fineness and sophistication. The Wiki claims that when they asked Elisabeth Djian why she created Numero, she commented, "I was bored with magazines that told me how to seduce a man. I wanted to create this magazine for an intelligent, smart woman who wants to read about art, design, music: not about stupidity – creams that take away wrinkles, you know, which is stupid." They chose Dai for a reason.
http://s019.radikal.ru/i638/1205/5b/0dca9a1c95e4.jpg
http://s57.radikal.ru/i158/1205/c3/b0fb9bc2710e.jpg
http://s51.radikal.ru/i133/1205/16/8e1c57aef944.jpg
http://s018.radikal.ru/i526/1205/2e/c9e59216a8bd.jpg
 
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How wonderful, Let's Talk. I didn't know that magazine, but I'm impressed with the concept and the fact that they thought of Dai as someone who belongs in it. He sure does!

Heart and Mind of Gold. What a splendid title.
 

demarinis5

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There was a preamble before the interview that didn't enter the translation. There the author admires Dai's performanace at Worlds, how the audience cheered him and goes with the title in English "Heart and mind of gold." That was really something to see Dai not in just some sport magazine but in Numero. Among Cartier, LV, Dior, Gucci, Tasaki, etc., ads, as well as Kitano exhibition, Botanical sculpture, Chanel Classic revisited, Mizuma Art Gallery stuff and others. Dai there, in that avant-garde worlds of fashion, art and luxury, as a brand of fineness and sophistication. The Wiki claims that when they asked Elisabeth Djian why she created Numero, she commented, "I was bored with magazines that told me how to seduce a man. I wanted to create this magazine for an intelligent, smart woman who wants to read about art, design, music: not about stupidity – creams that take away wrinkles, you know, which is stupid." They chose Dai for a reason.
http://s019.radikal.ru/i638/1205/5b/0dca9a1c95e4.jpg
http://s57.radikal.ru/i158/1205/c3/b0fb9bc2710e.jpg
http://s51.radikal.ru/i133/1205/16/8e1c57aef944.jpg
http://s018.radikal.ru/i526/1205/2e/c9e59216a8bd.jpg

Thank you! Dai is looking absolutely fabulous!
 

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The last installment is just about the best, because it brings out both their personalities! I'm sorry it's the end of the article, but I'm sure I'll be going back and rereading, so the enjoyment will last. Thanks so much for all your work on this.

I agree with you about Mao, and like you I desperately hope that the Satos are her perfect coaches, as Nagamitsu is for Daisuke and Orser seems to have been for YuNa. Mao is such a treasure and a gift to skating, and I'd love to know that she's getting the most out of her experience as a skater. I love your description of her as cotton candy on the ice. It's true that lightness is one of her greatest characteristics. It's a trait that, even though I also love YuNa, I don't think YuNa has. Kim is smooth and powerful, but Mao seems to be in flight. Both of those ladies have faced unbelievable pressure in their skating careers, and they've done it with grace and effectiveness.


ITA, though I don't think anyone competing now has the "butterfly" lightness of being like Mao. She truly is a national treasure and her world wide fans are legion. I so hope this year finds the ice kind to her.
 

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:love: Isn't the photographer Kishin Shinoyama?

Okay, let's talk, I confess...
I went to Kinokuniya bookstore 2 days ago to check out this magazine. Picked it up, looked at the above photos, closed and put it back to the shelf.
Why?
reason 1, my heart skipped a beat.
reason 2, 'how can I open that magazine at home...in front of my family???' :unsure:, I wondered and decided not to buy it. :laugh:
 

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Part 1 imo was more interesting. This time the girl talks too much, and there's a lot of long silly flood in her questions that Dai had to answer.
About holidays he said the fs season is from September till March/ April, then they have a bunch of shows. This year he doesn't have any holiday plan (yet- :disapp: LT). FS is a winter sport, so he often wants to go to places with summer feeling, like Okinawa or Hawaii. He doesn't want just to relax and do nothing on the resort. He wants to move, to go somewhere, either to restaurants, or movies, or shopping. He is a huge shopper and makes decision to buy or not to buy spontaneously, often without any plan or preparation (one more thing we have in common!- :thumbsup: LT ). He sometimes shops with friends but usually he prefers to shop alone. Recently he bought three spring coats of the same model but in three different colors. In general he adores dark colors, black first of all. But he also likes other passionate colors, like red, orange, silver, gray, blue. But dark colors are still his favourite. He is the last child in the family of 4 boys, so he always had to wear his elder brothers' clothes, i.e. the clothes that weren't bought specially for him. When he grew up and got a chance to shop for himself, his shopping desire bumped! About his FS costumes he said that before his designer created his costumes but recently he is trying to design his costumes partly by himself, he wants his body to feel better and more comfortable in skating outfits. He drinks occasionally, for example when he goes to karaoke with friends. There he dances mostly, but sometimes sings too. He likes not bright songs only but also ballads. He always listens to music in practice, as well as at competitions, while waiting for his turn, in order not to hear the audience cheering for other skaters. He likes various types of music, like R&B, pop, J-pop, etc. Yeah, and he usually listens to it in the car.
 

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To all Daisuke fans in the world who feel a bit surpised/depressed at the news over the weekend. :)

-Original pic from Akiko's blog on May 27: Daisuke visited her home rink at Nagoya while she was away for choreography to Detroit.

http://ameblo.jp/suzuki-akko/image-11278700752-12030190584.html

-Another pics from her blog today: At Dreams on Ice last night. ;)

http://ameblo.jp/suzuki-akko/image-11278700752-12030190613.html
http://ameblo.jp/suzuki-akko/image-11278700752-12030190642.html

Akiko and Daisuke, thanks a million for these sweet pics. I love you guys! :biggrin:
 

deedee1

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What the crazy week it has been for all his fans! :rolleye::laugh:

I have never imagined or hoped they would work together again. However I have always wanted Dai and Nikolai would make peace at a certain point if circumstances allows. They can not forever avoid facing each other, can't they? For that matter I am relieved to know Nikolai has regreted how they parted ways four years ago, because my guess is Dai also felt the same way. To me it looked a sort of 'too much love turned into a far greater hatred' like situation. It was a bit uncharacteristic of himself that Nikolai even admitted that was his fault.
I am also relieved that he contacted Dai's manager first and (seemingly) apologized him in order to offer his intention to work with Dai again, because Nikolai heavily criticized the manager for their breakup in the past. In this regard, tons of my gratefulness and respect are to Mr. Ihara for his professionalism that he did not turn down Nikolai's offer and simply delivered it to Daisuke as-a-matter-of-factly.

I do not know whether or how much it will be beneficial for Dai to work again with Nikolai at this point of his career. Good news is Mrs. Nagamitsu remains as his primary coach and Takeshi Honda as his jump coach. As long as both felt they sort of had unfinished business with each other and as long as it's Dai's decision after long and careful deliberation, I am leaning toward this idea now. I am, after all, one of 'Dai'-hard fans who will be rooting for him no matter what.

My hope is still either Lori or someone else other than Nikolai will do choreos for the new season, so that Dai can experiment new things in this important pre Olympic season. And if Nikolai has to choreograph his competitive program in the Olympic season (it perhaps is hard to believe he would allow Dai again to go to other choregraphers, you know ;)), bottom line of my hope is Nikolai does choreo only one program, NOT two.

My sincere wish is that Dai inspires/pushes/demands Nikolai (and vice versa) to be more creative and innovative, and together they will succeed to expand the possibility of competitive figure skating in both technically and artistically for the sake of figure skating which has been, sad to say, losing its popularity over the years; just like they did with hip hop Swan Lake years ago. :yes:

These are my favorite Dai's programs by Nikolai:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtFHZtvWv4A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy8Ce4NCNns

To Daisuke Takahashi and Nikolai Morozov, good luck to you guys on the new chapter of your collaboration! :)
 
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