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    Leonova wrote in her blog on rsport.ru that Dai is coming to Morozov's camp in the US at the end of July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    Leonova wrote in her blog on rsport.ru that Dai is coming to Morozov's camp in the US at the end of July.
    He's going to be here? Yippee!

    Sorry, Japan. You can't have him back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    He's going to be here? Yippee!

    Sorry, Japan. You can't have him back.
    As you wish!
    In return, please keep an eye on Nikolai for the sake of Daisuke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    Leonova wrote in her blog on rsport.ru that Dai is coming to Morozov's camp in the US at the end of July.
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    He's going to be here? Yippee!
    Sorry, Japan. You can't have him back.
    I just might have to take a a little trip to Morozov's camp. Is he still in NJ?

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    Road trip!

    Remember, you have obligations if you go. We require a report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demarinis5 View Post
    I just might have to take a a little trip to Morozov's camp. Is he still in NJ?
    No, my dear. In her blog she said they were there but then they moved to Connecticut where they are planning to stay till the end of August. She explained that Morozov spent a lot of time on finding the rink where they can work at nights, because it's the best time to make new programs (no kid-pupils around, etc.), as she said:
    http://rsport.ru/blog_leonova/20120703/603531327.html

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    Where in CT? It's a small state, and I live there.

    Simsbury, perhaps?

    Or Yale?

    Depending on where in NJ someone is, lots of CT is very close, too, for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Where in CT? It's a small state, and I live there.

    Simsbury, perhaps?

    Or Yale?
    She said they are in Danbury (Коннектикут, город Дэнбери in the original Russian text). She doesn't specify what rink ther are in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    She said they are in Danbury (Коннектикут, город Дэнбери in the original Russian text). She doesn't specify what rink ther are in.
    Let's talk, how many languages do you handle??? I have always wondered. You must be at least trilingual!
    SkateFiguring is trilingual at least, too. It often amazes me that a lot of GS members speaks so many languages, while I am struggling with singular/plural form on nouns and/or subjunctive mode all the time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by deedee1 View Post
    while I am struggling with singular/plural form on nouns and/or subjunctive mode all the time...
    Haha. You have no idea how many native English speakers don't handle "If only she were here..." and other subjunctive mood forms. Or can't explain to a not native speaker (like myself) why "The United States of America" has the arrticle "the". You are doing very well in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deedee1 View Post
    Let's talk, how many languages do you handle??? I have always wondered. You must be at least trilingual!
    SkateFiguring is trilingual at least, too. It often amazes me that a lot of GS members speaks so many languages, while I am struggling with singular/plural form on nouns and/or subjunctive mode all the time...
    I am also amazed and impressed. In several different alphabets and writing systems, no less! Add skatinginbc to the list of multilingual prodigies as well. This is a talented and accomplished bunch, isn't it?

    And your English is splendid, deedee. As for subjunctive, as let's talk says, many native English speakers goof up this mood--probably because we don't really have a separate subjunctive form. (On a related topic, if I had a nickel for every time I heard a native speaker say "I should have went" instead of "I should have gone," I'd be a lot better off.)

    By the way, let's talk, I read somewhere that before the Civil War, people used to use the plural verb for the United States: "The United States are." Now we use the singular: "The United States is." I love how elastic language can be. Part of that particular change may be philosophical, and part may be a separation from British English. I've noticed that in Britain they use the plural verb for a company name: "Cadbury are a British chocolate manufacturer." In the U.S., we use the singular; "Hershey is an American chocolate manufacturer." The Brits say "My family are in London for the Olympics." We say "My family is in London for the Olympics." (I wish!)
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    I'll take a guess:

    At the time just prior to the Revolution, the states were actually occasionally in shooting wars and often in legal confrontations with each other. They were separate colonies of England, as separate as say, Australia & Canada or India & South Africa in the day of the British Empire. They were separated by religion, and even by ethnicity.

    NY had many Dutch folk.
    Pennsylvania was Quaker.
    Maryland was Catholic.
    Vermont was Deist/Unitarian.

    And lest you doubt the military stuff, for example, Vermont's Green Mountain boys were an already existing military force who spent their time keeping away invading folks from New York, which is why they were organized enough to seize Fort Ticonderoga immediately after the Battle of Bunker Hill.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Mountain_Boys

    Consequently, the origin of "the United States" is similar to "the European Union". The states were separate entities organized together because:

    "If we do not hang together, we will most certainly hang separately."


    Consequently the definite article "the" is used with the adjective "united" to describe the States. At first the united states was normal English syntax, and not a name at all. ( Previously, they would have been "the" colonies.)

    Later the common designation was chosen as the name of the country, with the The left in, perhaps for convenience in not having to change documentation all that much as anything.

    In any case, it's as good a guess as any.

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    And after the Revolution, before the Constitution was developed, the states lived under a document called the Articles of Confederation. Everyone moved in a separate orbit. There was no U.S. monetary system, so, for instance, some states used British money and some used gold doubloons. Vermont I think entered into a treaty with Spain. Finally people came over to the idea of a strong central government, but with certain rights belonging to the states.

    Ethan Allen...one of my favorite quotes (I hope it wasn't apocryphal) was what he hollered out when he took Fort Ticonderoga: "Surrender in the name of the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress!" I've always wanted an opportunity to say that.

    As for when we put the definite article (the) in front of nouns, it can be confusing. In French, it's easier: you nearly always have an article in front of a noun. There doesn't seem to be a rule in English, unfortunately. For instance, you would say "Night comes early in December" but "The night has a thousand eyes."

    But don't worry: when Daisuke comes here and learns some English, we'll be delighted at whatever he says!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I'll take a guess:

    At the time just prior to the Revolution, the states were actually occasionally in shooting wars and often in legal confrontations with each other. They were separate colonies of England, as separate as say, Australia & Canada or India & South Africa in the day of the British Empire. They were separated by religion, and even by ethnicity.

    NY had many Dutch folk.
    Pennsylvania was Quaker.
    Maryland was Catholic.
    Vermont was Deist/Unitarian.

    And lest you doubt the military stuff, for example, Vermont's Green Mountain boys were an already existing military force who spent their time keeping away invading folks from New York, which is why they were organized enough to seize Fort Ticonderoga immediately after the Battle of Bunker Hill.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Mountain_Boys

    Consequently, the origin of "the United States" is similar to "the European Union". The states were separate entities organized together because:

    "If we do not hang together, we will most certainly hang separately."


    Consequently the definite article "the" is used with the adjective "united" to describe the States. At first the united states was normal English syntax, and not a name at all. ( Previously, they would have been "the" colonies.)

    Later the common designation was chosen as the name of the country, with the The left in, perhaps for convenience in not having to change documentation all that much as anything.

    In any case, it's as good a guess as any.
    That was entertaining. But I am afraid that if someone needed to learn the history of each country in details in order to know to use "the" or not, the result would be just every time. I take it simpler: if the name of the country has a common noun, then the article "the" is used. At least that was what they told us at school: "Russia" but "the Russian Federation". As well as "the United States of America", "the United Kingdom", "the Dominion of Canada", "the Soviet Union", etc. There are some exceptions but they all have their reasons, either geographical (the Bahamas and the Philippines refer to the groups of islands) or historical (the Netherlands, original meaning "low countries"). Luckily for Daisuke and for all not native English speakers the wrong usage of the article with proper names is not crucial.

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    That's an excellent explanation, Let's Talk. It seems to suit all the examples, and it even mentions the exceptions. (I have a vague recollection that Gambians call their country "The Gambia," for example.) As you say, it's not crucial to figure out where to use the article, and we'll get Daisuke where he needs to go whether he masters that part or not. All he has to do is smile and wave.

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