Reading this thread makes me aware that figure skating is a really dangerous sports.
I hope Plushenko gets very, very good advice from doctors. He's already a legend, and having just won Europeans at 29 years of age with rave reviews, if he were to never return to competition, it would have been a very good way to end his career.
Last edited by hurrah; 02-23-2012 at 02:07 AM.
It's Plushenko's decision to make. If he's determined to be a bionic man, he should also consider that even Superman succumbed to spinal injury. Christopher Reeve's determination didn't reverse his condition.
Indeed, it is Plushy's decision to make. And I also agree that if he skates the way he did in Euros, he can still medal in Sochi. I have never written him off. He's a legend and very driven to win as Skatelurv pointed out. It's good for figure skating and competition if he skates at Sochi. I am sure the Russians will look forward to supporting their legend in full force. On a positive note, perhaps his operation may not be as serious as we think? Maybe the press twisted the facts? And it's just a routine knee surgery? We will know in two years' time. Again, good luck to Plushy on his operation. The legend will get the best doctors. Heal fast and well.
Originally Posted by skateluvr
No you didnt say anything wrong, it just sounds oversimplified to me, like I cant find a reasonable excuse so it must be this. I just disagree. I can tell you skaters that are at Evgeni's age with no so frequent or at all podium finishes( if a win is an extra motivation to keep going) and still have the drive to compete for some reason. Kristofer Brentsson retired at 28 (and he was so missed at Euros). KVDP seems not to retire again! (for what I read about Worlds). Joubert doesnt retire (I hope he doesnt retire anyway) even if he has accomplised a lot the past ten seasons and has been injured a lot as well, he just not talks about it at all, contrary to Evgeni. If they stay till Sochi it will be their 4th Olys too. Most important, Pfeiffer doesnt retire, yey..although he skates the last ten years (people know how much i love him). Weir is coming back, Evan is probably coming back, it looks the trend now.
Back in 2009 I was reading how Plushenko, 26 then, doesnt let go at this age, and now lets see how many top skaters are 26 or older now but people dont mind them not retiring. I cant explain why he wants to compete, if it was me I would buy a house in Costa Rica and stay there. If I knew the reason for his first comeback, even more the second, I d be Olympic Champion too. But even after Torino he looked far more ambitious than skating to Ice Age which is the norm for Oly Champ in Russia so who knows..
I can assume that he was pissed off with Vancouver, the medal and /or the critics and the extra motivation is fact that Olys are in Russia where he has rarely skated in a big event in front of home crowd. He was very active for the Sochi bid. Plus there is not a deep field in Russia and other then Gatsinksi I dont see anyone challenge him at Nationals. If Olympics were in another country maybe he wouldnt care. But I cant go as far as speculating that he doesnt find anything interesting besides that so he keeps competing. I think this reason alone cant get you out of bed to train. And I dont know if Putin has promised him a medal in Sochi, but if that is his motive, what did they had promised him for Vancouver and he bothered anyway?
And no, I wouldnt take a bullet for any guy, even more for a stranger.
Last edited by seniorita; 02-23-2012 at 04:28 AM.
Sorry to hear about this latest health issue that Plushy is facing, he has been through so much for this sport, one can surely surmise that he loves to skate and compete.
Wishing him a quick recovery.
He just twittered that the surgery has been completed and he is feeling very well. "I love you all!" http://twitter.com/#!/EvgeniPlushenk...49803413602305
Thank you, let's talk. Good for him!
I hope he will take the rest as much as needed before starting rehab training, so that he won't re-injure himself again.
Get well soon, Evgeni! Be sure to be a good boy and listen to whatever your doctor says to you!
Thanks so much! YES!!!
Anyone knows if it was knee surgery or back surgery? ...Anyway, it's completed and all went well!Rest well!!!
Great news!!!!Plushy, now REST, please!!!!
That was fast!! But it is great news!! Now please someone tie him down for 2-3 months!!
I wonder if it was both knee and back?? Great news that his operation was successful!
No you didnt say anything wrong, it just sounds oversimplified to me, like I cant find a reasonable excuse so it must be this. I just disagree. I can tell you skaters that are at Evgeni's age with no so frequent or at all podium finishes( if a win is an extra motivation to keep going) and still have the drive to compete for some reason. Kristofer Brentsson retired at 28 (and he was so missed at Euros). KVDP seems not to retire again! (for what I read about Worlds). Joubert doesnt retire (I hope he doesnt retire anyway) even if he has accomplised a lot the past ten seasons and has been injured a lot as well, he just not talks about it at all, contrary to Evgeni. If they stay till Sochi it will be their 4th Olys too. Most important, Pfeiffer doesnt retire, yey..although he skates the last ten years (people know how much i love him
Back in 2009 I was reading how Plushenko, 26 then, doesnt let go at this age, and now lets see how many top skaters are 26 or older now but people dont mind them not retiring.
Plushenko didn't compete 4.5 years in total between 2006-2012, why people don't subtract those years.
Plushenkos body even with those who are 24-25 now
Almost every skater has health problems, but media likes to follow Plushenko very close because he is so popular.
After watching him at Euros live, tell you, NO one can match his presentation and interpretation. He dominated like tiger.
Wish him fully recovery and compete for GOLD in Sochi!
You're right, no one does. That was a poorly worded statement on my part.
I hope his life without skating isn't meaningless, but it does seem as though he may be finding it difficult to move on from being competitive in the sport he obviously loves dearly. It's gotta be tough to continue to have a blazing motivation to do more while you're body is basically giving up on you.
And it seems that the spinal surgery has been done? Unless it's for his knee, it's seems no one is sure. Well, I wish Evgeni the best of luck.
Not only does Plushenko skate because he just plain loves it. He said in an interview once that skating and competing gives an adrenaline rush. It's like race cars for others or extreme sports. Life is boring without it.
No you didnt say anything wrong, it just sounds oversimplified to me, like I cant find a reasonable excuse so it must be this. I just disagree. I can tell you skaters that are at Evgeni's age with no so frequent or at all podium finishes( if a win is an extra motivation to keep going) and still have the drive to compete for some reason. Kristofer Brentsson retired at 28 (and he was so missed at Euros). KVDP seems not to retire again! (for what I read about Worlds). Joubert doesnt retire (I hope he doesnt retire anyway) even if he has accomplised a lot the past ten seasons and has been injured a lot as well, he just not talks about it at all, contrary to Evgeni. If they stay till Sochi it will be their 4th Olys too. Most important, Pfeiffer doesnt retire, yey..although he skates the last ten years (people know how much i love him
Back in 2009 I was reading how Plushenko, 26 then, doesnt let go at this age, and now lets see how many top skaters are 26 or older now but people dont mind them not retiring. I cant explain why he wants to compete, if it was me I would buy a house in Costa Rica and stay there. If I knew the reason for his first comeback, even more the second, I d be Olympic Champion too. But even after Torino he looked far more ambitious than skating to Ice Age which is the norm for Oly Champ in Russia so who knows..
I can assume that he was pissed off with Vancouver, the medal and /or the critics and the extra motivation is fact that Olys are in Russia where he has rarely skated in a big event in front of home crowd. He was very active for the Sochi bid. Plus there is not a deep field in Russia and other then Gatsinksi I dont see anyone challenge him at Nationals. If Olympics were in another country maybe he wouldnt care. But I cant go as far as speculating that he doesnt find anything interesting besides that so he keeps competing. I think this reason alone cant get you out of bed to train. And I dont know if Putin has promised him a medal in Sochi, but if that is his motive, what did they had promised him for Vancouver and he bothered anyway?
And no, I wouldnt take a bullet for any guy, even more for a stranger.I think multiple retirements and come backs are more common than people might think.
Not only Plushy but Lambiel also came back in 2010 Olympics. Remember Michael Jordan? He is equally or perhaps more legendary than Plushy; Jordan's comeback and pursuit of former glory died hard.
Among tennis players, Kim Clijsters, Justin Henin, Lindsey Davenport all mounted come-backs with various degree of successes. I've once heard from "legendary" John McEnroe that many athletes wouldn't know what to do after retirement. Those are highly competitive and driven people who pursued a single goal with intensity for sustained amount of time. Not many other live pursuits provide that level of intensity and gratification, I suppose, as least to those athletes.
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