Amelie Lacoste: Canada's best figure skater looks forward to Sochi

Mao88 · Feb 24, 2012

New article on Amelie Lacoste entitled 'Canada's best figure skater looks forward to Sochi'

Article reads:-

Canada's figure skating champ is a Montrealer who has serious plans for the next winter Olympics. Amelie Lacoste, 23, wants to skate for Russian gold at Sochi in 2014......Now the best in Canada, Amelie has had to start training even harder.

So, the two questions arising out of this article are, has Amelie:

Now firmly overtaken Cynthia Phaneuf as Canada's best ladies skater?
Got a realistic chance of winning 'Russian Gold' (i.e. the Olympic title), as the article's author calls it, at the 2014 Olympics?

pangtongfan · Feb 24, 2012

Mao88 said:
New article on Amelie Lacoste entitled 'Canada's best figure skater looks forward to Sochi'

Article reads:-

So has Amelie:

Now firmly overtaken Cynthia Phasneuf as Canada's best ladies skater?

Got a realistic chance of winning Gold at the 2014 Olympics?

Answer to question 1: Yes.

Answer to question 2: :laugh:

when purple pigs fly through the sky

dorispulaski · Feb 24, 2012

Just saying, but Patrick Chan is clearly Canada's best figure skater

However, it's a Montreal skater being interviewed for a Montreal paper, and they didn't really say she had a chance to win the gold, just to compete for it. Hometown papers always do this. They are proud of Amelie, as well they should be.

After all the rematches Cynthia has had with Amelie this year, always losing them, I think it is fair to say that Amelie is the best ladies skater in Canada right now.

I understand that Amelie is definitely going to Worlds this year?

Mao88 · Feb 24, 2012

My view is:

no
no way.

I still think Phaneuf is Canada's best ladies skater. I simply think she has had a very bad season, but that she can get back to her best fairly quickly given that she is now being coached by Brian Orser. After all, look at what he has done in terms of turning around Elene Gedevanishvili's fortunes.

dorispulaski · Feb 24, 2012

It's possible Phaneuf will turn it around. If Caroline Zhang can do it, anyone can. But this year, Amelie is Canada's best lady's skater. Next year, who knows?

In fact, I think the belief that someone is for ever and always anointed as the best, no competitions required, is very destructive to a skating program, especially when the anointed one is not guaranteed to make the top ten, let alone the top 6, at Worlds.

sky_fly20 · Feb 24, 2012

pangtongfan said:
Answer to question 1: Yes.

Answer to question 2: when purple pigs fly through the sky

lmao

but you never know, its still 2 more years
she could pull a Joannie Rochette and get bronze at the Olympics ?
how likely will that be

dorispulaski · Feb 24, 2012

When purple pigs fly in the sky?

Perhaps if Amelie goes to Brian Orser.

Mao88 · Feb 24, 2012

sky_fly20 said:
lmao

but you never know, its still 2 more years
she could pull a Joannie Rochette and get bronze at the Olympics ?
how likely will that be

Phaneuf at her very best is capable of sneaking a medal should there be a number of meltdowns amongst the favourites. That is a far more likely scenario I think than Lacoste getting a medal.

lavender · Feb 24, 2012

No and no. :rolleye:

ImaginaryPogue · Feb 24, 2012

Firmly overtaken? No. Will be given the opportunity to be considered Canada's best lady skater? Yes.

Compete for a medal in Sochi? What ptf said. Rochette had already place top five in the Olympics by this point.

deedee1 · Feb 24, 2012

1. Yes. Well, at least this season.
2. Probably no

Yes, Cynthia is probably a better skater than Amelie, but she looked 'untrained' throughout the season.

And personally, I hope Amelie will stay as Canada's No.1 skater unless Joannie decides to come back; or more precisely unless Skate Canada begs Joannie to come back.

Looking at the outcome at the Nationals, I was disappointed by her complaint (or was it Brian's?) that her PCS was too low. As the reigning National Champion, she could have just congratulated the winner, shut up and accepted whatever Skate Canada says. It's called a class act.
Besides, I did not like that 'rematch' at 4CC by Skate Canada. It would never have happened if Cynthia had beaten Amelie even by 0.01 ponit at the Nationals. Oh well, that's how things work in Canada I guess.

I hope Amelie skates lights out and make the top 10 at Worlds, and surprises everyone. Go girl!

ImaginaryPogue · Feb 24, 2012

Cynthia made the complaint, not Brian.

I too had an issue with the rematch, so I'm glad the skate gods smiled. I fully expect Cynthia to come on strong next season and regain the title, though.

CoyoteChris · Feb 24, 2012

My friends and I elected to pull for Amelie over Cynthia at 4 Conts, and we watched both closely in practice and comp. The reality is that in this point in time, there isnt much to choose from. Both looked uncomfortable and worried out there. I feel for them. And as folks have said, just as Caroline has come back, so can either of them. BTW, we chose Amelie just because we think it is only right that if one wins their country's nats, unless injured, they should be chosen for worlds, just like things are here. I am sorry if Cynth thinks she was underscored....we have all talked about a certain Canadian male ice dancer who has voiced the same complaint.....I think MK was underscored by soviet bloc judges...but I got over it....DeeDee said it a bit rough but she is correct. A class act will be remembered long after the spitting out of sour grapes is forgotten.....

chuckm · Feb 24, 2012

Cynthia will be 26 in 2014 and Amelie will be 25. I don't see that either one of them has any chance to be on the Olympic podium. If Joannie Rochette returns at 28 after having been away from competition for four years, I doubt she has much chance either.

Skate Canada needs to seriously search for, find and develop talent in their younger ladies or the outlook for Canadian ladies will continue to be grim.

Skater Boy · Feb 24, 2012

Canada's Ladies - A Challenging Situation

CoyoteChris said:
My friends and I elected to pull for Amelie over Cynthia at 4 Conts, and we watched both closely in practice and comp. The reality is that in this point in time, there isnt much to choose from. Both looked uncomfortable and worried out there. I feel for them. And as folks have said, just as Caroline has come back, so can either of them. BTW, we chose Amelie just because we think it is only right that if one wins their country's nats, unless injured, they should be chosen for worlds, just like things are here. I am sorry if Cynth thinks she was underscored....we have all talked about a certain Canadian male ice dancer who has voiced the same complaint.....I think MK was underscored by soviet bloc judges...but I got over it....DeeDee said it a bit rough but she is correct. A class act will be remembered long after the spitting out of sour grapes is forgotten.....

I know this is disparaging but the state of women's skating in Canada is not good. Clearly neither Lacoste or Phaneuf has risen to the challenge this skating season. I don't think you can say Lacoste is clearly better - she squeaked out two wins at 4cc's and Nationals and even then many can see how Cynthia could have won - and she did win the freeskate. Short of extreme Lacoste fans most people would say Phaneuf was still the best chance for top ten or a medal - although that is if she skates near her best or her best. Lacoste though is doing her best; it will take a while for her to gain some notoriety and maybe more persence on and off the ice which is sadly lacking. Top ten for her will be hard - two Americans, three Japanese, Carolina K, a Finn or two, two to three Russian not to mention a couple of other eastern european skaters. For what it is worth I thought Cynthia may have been underscore but it doesn't relieve the sad state of affairs for women's skating in Canada. Ashley Wagner has a far greater chance for gold than a Canadian in the top ten.

As for Lacoste winning gold in Sochi I will try to be diplomatic. Lacoste has quite a challenge.

Mathman · Feb 24, 2012

Thanks for joining us, Skater Boy. Welcome to the Forum. Post often, post long! :rock:

Skater Boy · Feb 24, 2012

Amelie Lacoste - going for top ten...

Mathman said:
Thanks for joining us, Skater Boy. Welcome to the Forum. Post often, post long!

Thank you Mathman. I admit these are only my opinions; I am no skating guru. But the people on this forum seem really nice and civil (yay!!!) What I would like to really know about Canada's ladies - will Joannie come back. Seeing her at the Japan Open in this fall and while she was rusty on the bigger jumps she still skates "big", powerful and really her programs appear to be COP friendly - again, that's my opinion when you see the inbetweens - it's not just stroking and wow, she has great power and edge control - I'd say about as good as Carolina Kostner.

Spun Silver · Feb 25, 2012

I couldn't agree more. If Amelie is the best lady in Canada -

I say, drag Joannie back kicking and screaming or send young Kaetlyn to a labor camp NOW.

(Calm down, I'm just kidding.)

Olympia · Feb 25, 2012

Yeah, I love Canada (and have been adopted as an honorary Canadian for skating purposes), but even with my rose-colored glasses on, I don't see either Lacoste or Phaneuf as any kind of competition for top world honors. It's too bad, really. But they've got men's singles and ice dance podium placements virtually in the bag, so a ladies' drought shouldn't hurt so much. A good one will come along eventually.

Mathman · Feb 25, 2012

Skater Boy said:
...will Joannie come back.

There has been speculation that Joannie might come back for the team event at Sochi. I think this is a real possibility. It seems unlikely -- but you never know -- that she will be able to come all the way back to her 2010 form, and her chances of winning a medal are slim.

But she still might be "the best in Canada" and could hold down the lady's spot on a strong team anchored by Patrick Chan and Virtue and Moir.

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